• Alex@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    You think £1800 covers the cost of tuition? Do Scottish universities get additional funding to cover the difference? The fees in the rest of the country are much higher.

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      4 months ago

      You’re missing the forest for the trees.

      £1,800 is what Scotland capped education at, the Tories arbitratily decided to raise it to £9,000 in England. They initially claimed only the top universities like Oxford would charge this, but now it’s pretty much the standard. But let’s say for easy maths it’s £10,000, per year, per student. That’s a miniscule amount of money to spend to increase the intelligence of a population.

      Full time work, at 40h per week, on minimum wage (£12.21), with 30 days holiday per year, nets £22,466.40.

      For half a years work at minimum wage the ridiculous cost of £10,000 per year for education can be covered. For a 3 year English undergraduate degree it takes 1.5 years of minimum wage work to cover. That’s fuck all for a nation to cover, especially one as rich as the UK.

      For that cost you are vastly improving the scientific understanding, rationality, and intelligence of your population. For the rest of their lives. They can then also educate their children better, and so on.

      University education has been privatised in an attempt to make an “us and them”. To make “haves and have nots”. To further entrench a class system.

      Scotland provides free university education for anyone who wishes it, to create equality and break the class system. The Tories and New Labour wish no such thing.

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        4 months ago

        The question is how much it costs to fund higher education. The money goes via the students or the universities but it still needs to be paid. Even in my day the 3k I paid for tuition didn’t cover what it cost the university to run my course. With the drop in foreign students (who pay a lot more) universities have a funding crisis and a gap to be filled.

        I assume Scottish students don’t get the full amount of they go to an English university? They have to take out loans to?

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          4 months ago

          Scottish universities are free to all Scottish residents. English students (or students living in other parts of the UK) have to pay a similar rate to other UK universities, and international students pay much more.

          Scottish residents going to UK universities outside of Scotland have to pay the same rate as other UK residents. It’s only Scottish universities that are free and only for Scottish residents.

          None of this is the “gotcha” you seem to be looking for. Scotland uses its taxes to give free education to Scottish residents. It wouldn’t be reasonable to expect Scotland to provide free education for the whole of the UK, as that is a much larger population than that from which they draw tax revenue.

          England has a much larger tax pool (both in absolute magnitude and proportionally to the population) than Scotland, so what really doesn’t make sense is any argument that England can’t afford to pay for the education of English residents, when Scotland apparently can.