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  • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    No, there was a massive Arab immigration into the area following WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Most of the current Palestinians have only been there for 100 years.

    And I’m following it’s original meaning, because that is how Hamas means it. How are you so blind to that? You seem to get all your news from the Euro med Monitor, a propaganda organization with no verifiable sources.

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      8 months ago

      According to both the Peel commission and the 1946 British survey, there was basically none. “Arab illegal immigration is mainly casual, temporary and seasonal,” said Peel, and the 1946 survey states ““… the expansion of the Moslem and Christian populations is due mainly to natural increase…”

      The Jewish Historian Roberto Bachi estimates only about 900 Muslims per year immigrated between 1923 to 1946.

      Where did the increase come from? According to the British register of Births and Deaths, it came from a natural net increase of 2.7%. (One of the highest recorded birth rates of all of the British controlled lands at 5%, and a high mortality rate of 2.3%.) In fact the estimated number of Muslims in 1947 is simply the number in the 1933 survey plus the net gain.

      Peel: https://biblio-archive.unog.ch/Dateien/CouncilMSD/C-495-M-336-1937-VI_EN.pdf

      1946 Survey: Population in Palestine and the Increase in Population. British Mandate: A Survey of Palestine: Volume I

      Bachi: http://www.cicred.org/Eng/Public

      Vital Statistics figures from The Fertility and Mortality of the Population of Palestine, By: Hinden, Rita. Sociological Review (1908-1952). Jan/Apr40, Vol. 32 Issue 1/2, p29-49.

      You seem to get all your information from Israeli propaganda with no verifiable sources.

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        8 months ago

        WW1 ended in 1918. You’re missing some vital years there mate.

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          8 months ago

          The Ottoman empire ended in 1923, your claim was that there was a huge influx of refugees from this collapse than population of Palestine at the time.

          The data doesn’t back you up.

          If you want to find data that counters what I’ve posted then knock yourself out.

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              8 months ago

              No, there was a massive Arab immigration into the area following WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

              and the fall of the Ottoman Empire

              This was a claim you made it turned out to be false.

              The claim that there was mass immigration after ww1 I don’t think can be proven because the first modern census was in 1922.

              I’d love for you to provide a source for your claim and prove me wrong.

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      According to both the Peel commission and the 1946 British survey, there was basically none. “Arab illegal immigration is mainly casual, temporary and seasonal,” said Peel, and the 1946 survey states ““… the expansion of the Moslem and Christian populations is due mainly to natural increase…”

      The Jewish Historian Roberto Bachi estimates only about 900 Muslims per year immigrated between 1923 to 1946.

      Where did the increase come from? According to the British register of Births and Deaths, it came from a natural net increase of 2.7%. (One of the highest recorded birth rates of all of the British controlled lands at 5%, and a high mortality rate of 2.3%.) In fact the estimated number of Muslims in 1947 is simply the number in the 1933 survey plus the net gain.

      Peel: https://biblio-archive.unog.ch/Dateien/CouncilMSD/C-495-M-336-1937-VI_EN.pdf

      1946 Survey: Population in Palestine and the Increase in Population. British Mandate: A Survey of Palestine: Volume I

      Bachi: http://www.cicred.org/Eng/Public

      Vital Statistics figures from The Fertility and Mortality of the Population of Palestine, By: Hinden, Rita. Sociological Review (1908-1952). Jan/Apr40, Vol. 32 Issue 1/2, p29-49.

      You seem to get all your information from Israeli propaganda with no verifiable sources.