Kim Iversen on the Flour Massacre.

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    4 months ago

    It’s more than just genocide, it’s what happens whenever you let men have unfettered access to weapons to hurt and torture and kill. It’s bloodshed and outright murder. And nothing in the world or in heaven above can ever justify it. There’s only one commandment about any of it - “thou shalt not kill.” (I’m not religious btw but, just saying). There is no exception because of “war,” or because of freeing hostages, or anything else.

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    4 months ago

    Preface: I think it’s a genocide and I think Israeli government should be occupied and torn down. However, I understand many legislators in various countries cannot use those words.

    Part of the problem with demanding certain US Senators call it a genocide is that it’s grounds for expulsion from Congress. A Genocide allows for intervention due to the 1948 Genocide Convention, so by calling it that you’re asking for an invasion of an allied nation. Which can have you removed from office.

    That’s why Bernie Sanders calls it a “huge catastrophe”, “massive disaster”, “humanitarian crisis”, and indeed even “senseless slaughter” but none of that is good enough for certain right wing and centrist critics who want nothing more than to light a fire under his ass.

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    Hamas has killed all their hostages, huh? I mean, why would they still be keeping them? I’m not sure, but I don’t think this is exactly the response Hamas was hoping to get. They always talk about just standing up to the bully in stories or whatever fiction, but this whole little slice of history will be another example of the dangers of doing so.

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      why would they still be keeping them?

      Hostages are worth nothing dead, that would make them lose the last tiny bit of leverage they had. But, then again they seem to be operating more on anger than logic so who knows.

      I don’t think this is exactly the response Hamas was hoping to get.

      Hamas wanted permanent war.

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    4 months ago

    To be fair, most of them were actually run over, not shot.

    It boggles the mind that they think this is a valid argument.

    Edit: I know it isn’t true, it was a bullshit claim initially made by the IDF. But how is running them over instead even remotely better?

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      4 months ago

      Wrong. The only source for that claim is the idf. Doctors who received the wounded said 80% had gunshot wounds.