I am fairly new to programming and for my cs class i need to run individual programs. they don’t need to interact with anything else, so i am trying to just run the file I’m currently on but Kate just greys out the option. I really want to avoid using projects if i can because they’re just extra effort for no reason when I only need to run a single file. I did try using one, but Kate doesn’t have a new project button for some reason and i had some trouble with Cmake.

I’m aware that these are actually pretty basic things, but I can’t find anything online that actually explains how to use Kate at all. I would try using something else, but every IDE seems to have this same issue where by default it can’t run code and it has no documentation of any kind regarding actually running code, so i’ll just stick with the one that came with my distro.

also as a bonus question, why does every IDE seem to require you to configure every single option before it can run code and why do they all seem to discourage doing anything less than making an entire app?

  • tyler@programming.dev
    8·
    17 days ago

    Vscode is a text editor, sorry…“code editor”. Like you so graciously called out in a later comment, MS even clarified that it’s not an IDE. If VSCode is an IDE then so is VIM or Sublime Text or Notepad++, which of course is nonsense. IDE doesn’t just mean integrated development environment, it means it was meant to be used that way. Just because I turned my lawnmower into something that looks like an F1 race car doesn’t mean it’s an F1 race car.

    You’re clearly aware of all of the arguments why VS code isn’t an IDE so it’s pointless to have this argument, but you seem to think that just because something looks like an IDE means it is, which is just categorically false.

    • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
      23·
      17 days ago

      MS even clarified that it’s not an IDE

      Microsoft doesn’t get to define what an IDE is. Also… I actually reread what they said and the implicitly say it is an IDE (and a “code editor” which is a fairly meaningless term):

      Visual Studio Code is a streamlined code editor with support for development operations like debugging, task running, and version control. It aims to provide just the tools a developer needs for a quick code-build-debug cycle and leaves more complex workflows to fuller featured IDEs, such as Visual Studio IDE.

      “to fuller featured IDEs”, not “to IDEs”.

      • tyler@programming.dev
        22·
        17 days ago

        They didn’t have that originally, they added it because of people like you that are arguing that it’s an IDE when it clearly isn’t.

        Code editor makes perfect sense. It’s a text editor with code highlighting, fast search, and an understanding of different languages, oftentimes with command windows to make working with text easier. Clearly distinct from something like notepad, that only has the ability to edit text and nothing else.

        • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
          12·
          17 days ago

          They didn’t have that originally

          They added it within 4 months of launch.

          they added it because of people like you that are arguing that it’s an IDE when it clearly isn’t.

          They added text saying it is an IDE because they didn’t want people to think it is an IDE? I think you’ve misunderstood.

          It’s a text editor with code highlighting, fast search, and an understanding of different languages…

          And integrated debugging, testing, refactoring, … Why exactly do you think it is not an IDE?

          • tyler@programming.dev
            21·
            16 days ago

            They didn’t add text saying it’s an IDE. It clearly says it’s a code editor. They add a snippet about comparing it to actual IDEs to placate people like you, and no it wasn’t within 4 months of launch, it was years.

            lol it doesn’t have testing or debugging by default! You literally have to install extensions to do those things! It has panels where those things go, but they don’t do anything without an extension. Try running a js test from the gutter on a clean install. You literally can’t.

            • FizzyOrange@programming.dev
              22·
              16 days ago

              They’re saying it’s a code editor and an IDE.

              lol it doesn’t have testing or debugging by default!

              So the fact that they’ve designed it with an extensible architecture somehow makes it not an IDE? That doesn’t make any sense at all.

              I guess Eclipse isn’t an IDE either then?