• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    These comments smell tankie af

    Biden is giving free money to the progressive party far in advance of the midterms, I say we lock in and join the parade.

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      Which progressive party would that be? Is there a viable progressive party? Is it in the room with us now?

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        DNC wants to tax the rich, fund everyone’s healthcare, ban lobbying, draw fair election maps, protect the rights of minorities, stop climate change, and protect the right to worship whatever you want.

        If they had the authority to pass everything on their platform, if they had a trifecta and 60 senators for the first time since 1979 and a bunch of conservative SCOTUS judges croaked so we could replace them, then the USA would be further left than more than half of the EU.

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          DNC wants to

          DNC says it wants to…

          That’s something entirely different. When the Dems have had the votes, they didn’t deliver. Just like Trump, ignore the words, look at the actions.

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            They’ve literally done more than half of these things and Republicans make a career out of tearing it down at every opportunity.

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      Ah yes. Give money to the “progressive party” so it can do progressive things like funding ads for far right republicans in primaries:

      https://www.npr.org/2022/06/27/1106859552/primary-illinois-colorado-republican-candidate-democrats-ads

      Or backing “centrist” primary candidates against progressive candidates.

      Very progressive. This amalgamation of rich people’s money and consultants is a great political ally.

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        Fuck yeah fund the opposition’s primary. Your article even explains why that strategy works so well.

        If you don’t like how campaigns get financed, then I have some wonderful news! Democrats have in the past written many campaign finance laws including capping contributions per person effectively outlawing lobbying from 2003 to 2010 which was the basis of the Citizens United SCOTUS decision, which was also a 5:4 partisan decision.

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          Yeah look how well it’s worked. Far right nutjobs have totally not been normalized. Nope.

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            No matter how much you think far-right primarying conservatives in congressional districts normalizes the nutjobs, nothing holds a candle to electing the racist felon to POTUS two whole times.

            If there were more competitive conservative primaries in 2024 like there were for democrats then we’d be in a different timeline rn.

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                Let’s see,

                • ABC News article talking about how unprepared they were to face Trump (because they were expecting to face Rubio) and how much they underestimated his appeal

                Clinton and the Democratic Party establishment repeatedly stressed Trump’s lack of political experience as a knock against him during the general election campaign, but nationwide, the electorate valued the ability to bring about change.

                • Politico article about how shocking it was to the Clinton campaign that Trump won the RNC primaries

                “I asked a Clinton staffer about this,” said Sullivan, who around that time briefly went online to research Irish double-citizenship out of her revulsion with the Republican nominee-to-be. “He said, ‘Well, you know, now we have to save the republic.’"

                • A Salon article which cites a “wikileaks whistleblower” with a secret email addressed to no actual persons but the DNC just in general. Not even going to quote this one.

                Did you have some kind of point to make here? It might help if two of your articles didn’t directly contradict the third.

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                  Did you not read about the part where their plan was to boost the more extreme candidates in the primary to try to get the rest of them to move further right in hopes that it would make an easier opponent for them?

                  That they realized they screwed up after the fact doesn’t change that.

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                    That part was in the article about the wikileaks email. You’re irradiating a blindingly strong “trust us, bro” energy rn.

                    Even if we assume that was true, despite how incredibly suspicious and noncredible it is, then it was still a good plan. Spoiling candidates and splitting the voters into factions works, its been working on the DNC crazy well, and the chances of victory were always slim immediately following the 8 years of Obama which the right abhors with a deep seething hatred and the resulting political pendulum effect.

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      Because locking in to biden worked so well last time… This is such a stupid idea it has to come from a republican.