I think most of them know on some level that their arguments don’t make sense, but sometimes their cognitive dissonance requires them to type out some self platitude.

I personally think this is part of a growth process. I certainly remember writing things I thought that maybe I was wrong about, but leaving it to someone else to tell me exactly why.

99% of meat consumed in the US is factory farmed. If you bought it in a supermarket, it came from intensified animal agriculture, regardless of the feel-good marketing language.

How do you know an inorganic lifeform refuses to consume organic life forms? Worry not, they shall communicate it. HAHAHAHA.

This might work for consumer markets, but they’ve got b2b partners with deep pockets and expensive lawyers that are not happy. Also, the problem is widespread enough that a class action suit would be a pretty big deal. I don’t think this’ll just blow over.

IMO intell is scrambling to solve a hardware problem with software so they don’t have to do a massive and very, very costly recall.

Until they unequivocally show this not to be the, just hang tight.

New BD toy just dropped.

Yeah. As much as I dislike dogmatism, and vegans eating bivalves bothers me very little, I think there is an actual slippery slope issue here. If you accept that maybe some animals are OK to consume, how and where do you then set an arbitrary line?

This isn’t quite as black and white as you make it out to be. Severity is an issue here. If you apply the same concept to human life, a similar argument would quickly fall apart. (Oh it was just one human life, so it’s OK, you don’t kill anyone 99.9999% of the time.)

I personally think that whom you kill and for what reason matters greatly. If you accidentally step on a bug, that’s not the same as intentionally killing a rodent, which is not the same as intentionally torturing monkey. Just how killing in humans, intent and state of mind matters, so it does with animals.

I’m not saying that your conclusion is wrong, by the way, just that the reasoning by which you’ve arrived at it is suspect.

Honestly, bivalves were the last thing I gave up before becoming fully vegan, even after dairy and eggs, mainly, as you’ve pointed out, due to their very simple CNS. I found the “we don’t know yet, and it’s better to be safe” argument, as well as the fear of being purity checked by other vegans, convincing enough to stop eating them. Being vegan already makes you a bit of a social pariah, so I don’t need the trouble from both sides.

However, I personally believe that sentience and consciousness exist on a spectrum which is also roughly correlated to CNS complexity. That spectrum dictates how much a living thing is capable of suffering, and hence how much moral consideration they should be afforded.

“Vegans” eating bivalves is so incredibly low on my list of things I care about, it might as well be nonexistent. Let anyone who only eats produce from a veganic farm throw the first insult.

Yeah, you’re right. And maybe I shouldn’t be so quick to assume a lack of interest. After all, there were a lot of people in the lemmyshitpost thread yesterday supporting veganism while also bashing “toxic vegans”. It’s definitely a good thing if those sorts of people have an opportunity to come here and have any misconceptions cleared up.

Hello there. I’ve enjoyed reading some of your comments over the last several days, and I’m glad you’ll be a moderator here!

This sounds like a good idea to me, although the cynic in me thinks that there might not be too many non-vegans interested in this sort of good faith discussion. I guess you won’t know if you don’t try, though!

Honestly, deadlock doing the whole Fight Club marketing strategy really paid off for them. I heard so much about “the game you weren’t allowed to talk about” on various streams.

but there are some long words in there.

It’s kinda funny you call vegans insufferable then write so condescendingly. I’m not sure if you actually bothered to read the article you linked, or if it was just the first thing that kinda validated your feelings when you searched Google.

Let’s take a second to look at some of the ingenious methodology you’ve linked us to:

Instead, the only research that comes close [to directly comparing cognitive function of different diets] involved the reverse. It was conducted on 555 Kenyan schoolchildren, who were fed one of three different types of soup – one with meat, one with milk, and one with oil – or no soup at all, as a snack over seven school terms. They were tested before and after, to see how their intelligence compared. Because of their economic circumstances, the majority of the children were de facto vegetarians at the start of the study.

So, the test is to feed one group soup with animal flesh, one group soup with dairy and the other soup with oil or no soup at all!

There was no effort to use foods with similar nutritional profiles to make a valid comparison, so it’s already not a study of plant vs. animal based foods, it’s a study of how different macronutrient profiles (or no nutrients!) affect intelligence.

This is why it’s hard to take carnist seriously when they try and debate vegans. Both science and ethical consistency go against them every time.

It’s funny how every carnist who wanders in here explicitly to bash vegans seems to have a BS story like this, but they also have never talked about it in any other context like a normal person might. Statistically, 99% of flesh eaters buy their flesh from the supermarket (or their mom does, as the case may be).

This reeks of old reddit “As a black man…” thinly veiled racist comments. People lying on the internet is a time honoured tradition.

Not the product in question, but I’ve had pretty good success with this mock duck recipe:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BZUqaHVzSzE

Backblaze regularly releases failure rate statistics of their drives, and it’s often a big enough dataset to be quite meaningful. I haven’t been keeping up with it lately, but there certainly was a period of time where there were substantial differences in the failure rates of different manufacturers.

So while you do still need to have drive failure mitigation strategies, buying more reliable devices can definitely save you time and headache in the future by having to deal with failures less frequently.

What the actual fuck. Do they not even know that Monster Energy™ has vegan taurine? How else do they think vegans get their 166mg of caffeine per serving? 🙄

Anyways…

So, is this the instance mod overriding the community mods? Guess it’s time to give up on LW. It really has become the cesspit of Lemmy.

“My own dogs are family and I have limits, I only badly mistreat other dogs… I have no emotional bond to them, they are toys pure and simple. And [there are] plenty more where they came from.”

This is in line with the implication of carnism. Animals are simply objects to be consumed for pleasure. They have no intrinsic value; their only value is derived from the carnist’s own emotional attachment to them.

Much of the detail of Britton’s crimes are too graphic to publish, and so “grotesque” Chief Justice Michael Grant warned the courtroom they could cause “nervous shock”.

And yet he’ll be up for parole in 2028. This fucker deserves a life sentence.

Yeah, I’ll take tofu or seitan any day over tempeh. I don’t hate it, I just don’t like it enough to ever really buy it.

I do find it goes well in Thai~ish dishes with satay sauce, though.

I mostly agree. I kinda felt decisions mattered in a game like Disco Elysium, but you’re still essentially on the same overall track; the only way, things could really matter is if the story lines completely diverge, and that almost never financially makes sense, since you’d essentially be making multiple games and selling it as one.

I don’t think that’s the distinction that GGG is trying to get at though. What they’re going for is making micro-decisions matter. You have to turn your brain on and use it for combat most of the time to stay alive, so you can’t just zone out and go on autopilot then pay attention for when you know you’re going to need it. They want to focus on a much more active play style where there are more telegraphed attacks and dodging all the time.

I enjoy those mechanics too, but I don’t want them all the time. I want a blend of hard and easy, if that makes sense. I want to be able to blast through some content and make my goal clearing it as efficiently as possible, not worrying about dying every second.

And maybe I’m concerned about nothing, and it won’t be that way, but I’d rather try it and be happily surprised than go in with high expectations and be disappointed.