Hey, though, you’re the first person in this thread to actually mention by name a vegan Nutella alternative that doesn’t use palm oil, so you win first prize. 🏆🥳

the V-word is just off-putting to quite a few omnivores.

The discussion was about the ingredients being too exotic, not the labeling, but regarding the labeling, I don’t understand how a vegan product marketed toward vegans by indicating it’s vegan is a bad decision. Nocciolata puts up the label “vegan” too (it’s also palm oil-free, which is cool). Again, I’m sure Ferrero understands what their target audience is for this and have accounted for the extremely-close-minded-omni demographic.

This entire comment confuses me.

Here in Germany, chickpea is relatively exotic

I can’t speak to Germany, but at least where I am, chickpeas really aren’t exotic, even to people who really don’t know much of anything about other cultures. (Also, this won’t be in the German market yet; closest is the Belgian one.)

I’ve never seen rice syrup as an ingredient in anything that wasn’t specifically made for vegans.

I’ve never heard of this stereotype of rice syrup being especially prevalent in vegan products. I see rice syrup as a bit exotic, but not in a way that anyone who isn’t vegan but would be willing to buy vegan Nutella would think “well that’s just too out there for me. Syrup? Gross.”

It feels like they created a product specifically for the vegan market

That does seem to be the point of them removing dairy, yes.

which means they’re alienating parts of the non-vegan market

?_? How would this be alienating to someone who’s not vegan would otherwise try it as a vegan alternative? Like say what you want about enormous corporations like Ferrero, but I’m at least reasonably confident they did some market testing for this. The problem this comment is addressing feels extremely manufactured. If it doesn’t appeal to you, that’s one thing, but it feels like you’re overgeneralizing your own niche experience onto everyone else.

Wait, was there ever any doubt that Nutella is diabetes and CVD in a jar?

Edit: Apparently Ferrero marketed it as healthy if a comment below is to be believed. What the fuuuuuuck.

As someone out-of-the-loop here, do tell. I was hoping they might be out there, and I might give them a shot if they’re vegan.

Edit: found one thanks to JubilantJaguar below.

It’s sweet but not overly sweet and very rich. It’s like if you took fudge, made it creamier, and spread it on something. It’s been quite a few years since I’ve had it. Because it’s one of those foods that, like bacon, everyone seems to treat as literal perfection as almost a meme, I’m sure it has an air of intrigue to it. Like bacon, I feel, it’s pretty good but unexceptional.

Robot clearly never watched the ending of Fallout 3 about letting the humans do it instead.

That’s neat. Until a representation of something on a blockchain has any legal meaning regarding authenticity, ownership, or anything else, and until the overwhelming majority usage of NFTs isn’t as a scam, NFTs remain a pathetic and comically stupid class of speculative asset constituting a pyramid scheme that also happens to destroy the environment.

Whether something is open-source or not is dependent on what license if any its creator chooses to put it under. a) This comment confuses me more than anything, and b) if you want to make a better Flappy Bird game, you’ll probably have a better shot forking one of the existing clones than waiting for whatever steaming, uninspired pile of shit comes out of Belfort’s wallet.

• NFTs are objectively a scam, and unsurprisingly, 1208 – these developers – proudly and prominently display Wolf of Wall Street Jordan Belfort on their homepage.
• They just say “open-source” without stating a license, and coming from people willing to put a pyramid scheme in their no-effort mobile game, that sends up red flags for openwashing.
• If it is open-source, that isn’t god’s gift to mankind or anything. There are plenty of existing open-source Flappy Bird clones that mimic it – as best I can tell – one-to-one because Flappy Bird isn’t a complex game. And I’m somehow doubting a game designed to hawk shitty-ass NFTs has a lot of detail put into it either.

plus dried cranberries

Excuse me? You can’t just open up my world to the flavor combination of “nutty and tart” without giving me time to prepare.

(That sounds amazing)

In fact, if you read this post backwards, you’ll see a recipe for a really ripping lentil soup.

It should hopefully get better from here, and this should hopefully be the last drama post. Vegan news and recipes will be back very shortly, but it’s understandable if you don’t trust that after this.

Hi, what’s likely Beaver’s alt. Can you please not drag naeva into this unless they request to be dragged into it? If they want to rejoin the moderation team on their own terms, they’re more than welcome, and I’d love to have them back here.

I’m treating it as a threat.

Respectfully, JF, I believe it’s a perfectly compassionate approach to gently ask someone to pump the brakes on their behavior and, when they escalate even further, to attempt to cool things off by forcibly deescalating. I personally am diagnosed bipolar and have many friends who are as well; this isn’t a diagnosis, and the word is often used colloquially.

I think it’s entirely valid not to assume good faith given the circumstances. What’s at stake here is that Beaver was destroying the community in real time through a nonsensical interpretation of Rule 5, and I think it’s perfectly valid to point out that you were instated by Beaver right as she started this posting spree that landed us in this mess in the first place. Thelemmybud was put in place at the same time (they’ve never posted here, rarely post at all, and have the same specific niche interests as Beaver, leading me to believe it was a LW alt for the fact that federated moderation is jank), and strangely, long-time moderator Eevoltic was removed, although I’m not sure if that was of their own doing since I cannot view who performed that action.

I’m going to work toward building this community up instead of burning it to the ground; I’m sorry that’s disagreeable to you. (Also wait, when did I swear? “Shitposting”?)

She didn’t just not process the reply; she actively replied but to something else, showing that she was deliberately ignoring the other portion. You were instated as a moderator two days ago by Beaver – essentially around the same time as she went on her spree, so it’s unsurprising that you support it. She also ostensibly instated an alt in the form of Thelemmybud, but I can’t say for certain that it’s an alt.

Beaver has been destroying this community, and it’s going to take months to restore any goodwill we had over just two days of manic, petulant shitposting. I’m not reinstating her, because this community is going to die if she’s allowed to continue to abuse her power.

I’m not sure that last part’s true. The Death Star’s beam is pretty wide, and it manages to track a planet, which if we take Earth’s travel around the Sun as an example could be moving around 30 km/s. Voyager 1, by contrast, travels around 17 km/s. The main thing it would depend on is your distance from the Death Star. The laser seems to be able to travel a very long distance, and so if you’re far enough away, that only requires a very small angular correction by the station, although they’d have to lead the shot more and would give the ship more chances to make unpredictable maneuvers after they’ve already fired. Collimation means that the beam would stay at basically the same width when it reaches you as it was at the station, so I don’t think that would be a factor. If you’re really close, though, then yeah, even just lazily moving out of the way is probably enough. I don’t think it’s ever quite explained how the Death Star tracks Alderaan, but based on the fact that the laser is facing like 150 degrees away from the planet as Princess Leia is brought in for interrogation, I think it can be surmised that it can orbit itself about its own axis pretty quickly.

It’s always been my understanding that oysters are bivalves.