Unless you can point us to that term, is it worth considering that you may be in the wrong here?

I’ve been searching for someone who can give me more than “yeah, but I saw someone say it online” for a while now… I’ve read the public facing docs and have found nothing that says you can’t sell your game cheaper - though there is something that says you can’t sell your free generated Steam keys cheaper without an equivalent deal on Steam ([here] (https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys#3)).

It is important that you don’t give Steam customers a worse deal than Steam key purchasers.

It’s not even that strongly worded.

Even if there was a super secret policy, how do you think it is communicated to developers so they know not to do it?

Which part of the industry are you looking, if you don’t mind revealing?

Okay, to reverse the question then - have you ever seen anything that supports there being something contractual to say thar non–Steam copies can’t be sold at lower prices? Like, the terms you mention above? I’ve read the public docs, and can find nothing.

I can think of multiple times when, e.g. Ubisoft games, Rockstar games, have been sold on EGS or their own launcher for far cheaper than the version on Steam - so we’re both supported by anecdata, here.

Thanks!

Found Steamdeck, but I can’t see a non parody Valve account - got a link/handle?

Edit: Valve Software, thank you.

I feel so grumpy for not liking this, but 🤦

Honestly, can’t remember the last time I queued. That said, maybe it’s a regional problem.

Sorry, I’m confusing a conversation I saw the other day that said we’d have had two GTAs in the same time star citizen had been in development for. Weird comparison.

Do you think they don’t intend to deliver? If so, we fundamentally disagree.

Mismanagement or bad planning is not a scam.

Why is this a scam?

Are you asking this about any other games? GTA6 doesn’t have a release date yet, do you have the same worry?

… Genuinely, I do see the difference between the two, but it’s weird to me that people are calling it out for things that aren’t said. They say enough; if you can’t make complaints based on reality, that’s a bit lazy.

Edit: for what it’s worth, I’ll “move the goalposts” on this one if you come back with some nonsense around how they haven’t delivered anything yet. I’ve played a fair few hours on my ship (probably a few hundred over the last decade), despite not having invested millions of pounds.

Where does he say “have no plan of delivering”, out of interest? I’ve re read it a few times and can’t find that.

Central Cambridge, where I’d just about given up hope on actually seeing them without heading out of town.

I suspect he means less “too much experience” and more “not wanting to pay his desired salary”, though I may be mistaken.

if Ryujinx wanted to avoid this outcome, they should have done things differently

How do you not read this as blame? Or, is this not the same as “they had it coming, wouldn’t have happened if they’d been dressed in armour or hadn’t gone down that street alone” which is often known as victim blaming.

Oh, there’s a wiki article on that. It has a section on the thing you’re arguing about, with cars and pedestrians Neat. Maybe this is why people are talking about it.

Came to say roughly the same thing!

February 28th, 2025

Sadly, I think this person is railing against “having more than just white guys featured” (as if that’s forced, when you start making games in new locations around the world) rather than the bland Ubi-style open-world map checklist that you might expect to be the sane complaint.

100% agree, other than the ratio of countries that can legitimately create a PSN account (and/or buy the game).

Otherwise, seems just like the Games For Windows live stuff that people didn’t love but certainly didn’t care this much about.

E.g. Fallout 3, pre-goty.

Yeah, I enjoyed the ability previously to have an opportunity to paint up a small squad of a random army I wouldn’t collect otherwise.

This change not only removes that, but also kills my interest in killteam, to be honest. But I’m someone who liked the customisation from v1, so I’m clearly not the target 😅

I’ll be honest, I’m very confused about what you mean when you say that Google Wallet isn’t a thing. I pay with my Android phone everywhere, so ubiquitously that I’ve frequently left the house with just my phone and keys.

Do you mean America, where contactless payment is far less frequently accepted, or the concept of clicking on a “Pay with Google Wallet” style prompt on a website?

Fair enough.

Thank you for the response!