Can we still peck his eyes out? 🐦‍⬛

A modern day Prometheus?

How are beans on toast not exciting? So many variables to consider:

• The bean consistency, thick or sloppy.
• How many beans will the toast hold before collapsing.
• To add chilli flakes or not to add chilli flakes.

Define exciting.

It’s fair to say a big deal was made over the change in colour back when they announced it. But four / five years on from that it’s only ever brought up by Remainers, constantly…

I was told we would chlorinate our chicken after Brexit? That not happening anymore? Well shit…

Even if it’s a present for someone else.

😶‍🌫️ Because it’s secretly a present for yourself!

Yeah but they’d get fucked with PR.

Labour less so but they would still prefer FPTP over PR for party reasons. And without one or both of these large groups nothing will change. 😞

it is up to the court to decide.

This isn’t a simple thing as you are implying though. That’s the point I’m making. Your “solutions” are more like wishes in an ideal world. They aren’t workable and would add massively to the overstretched resources.

there is no link between paying taxes and right to vote. People on benefits have right to vote and taxes paying migrants do not

These are the exceptions. What do you think I mean when I say the social contract? Why would you live and pay into a society… and by pay that could be taxes if you can afford them or in other ways if not… if you get nothing out of it? The government is just seizing your money for what? And you suggest to just band or ostracise people at a whim? Again, unworkable.

Imagine being told that you’re not allowed to vote because you don’t think the same way as someone else. Madness. Absolute madness.

No, it is quite simple really.

Which is why it has already been done. Oh wait. No it hasn’t. Because your idea of simple is nuts.

Labour should simply take the UK back into the EU - in line with majority of the informed public.

Surely you can see that this wouldn’t work on at least two levels. The EU has said repeatedly that it doesn’t want the UK back until there a strong majority across the board of the population to avoid the UK turning round in another forty years and leaving again. Do you think forcefully taking the UK back proves that to the EU? And on a more basic level, Labour would destroy itself if it ignored it’s voters a lot of which voted to leave. What you’re calling for is electoral suicide. Even if they did try and do this you think it would be simple? The only simple thing that would happen is Labour would be out of office or dismantled for a hundred years.

Creating a criminal offence for a public person/figure to lie to the public with an intention to mislead them.

They already have this in the ministerial code and it doesn’t get enforced. The cop out is always, “I genuinely didn’t believe I was lying at the time” creating a high bar to prove otherwise. Have you seen a libel or slander case in the UK recently? Do you think they’re quick or cheap to run? This would be “simple” you say? 😂

Public education for the wide public, promoting anti racism and explaning the benefits of EU membership and how much it costs to be outside. People don’t need convincing, they need education. Once they know the facts, the rest will follow

Compulsory re-education for racists. Like speed awarnes courses for people expressing racist views. Fines for reoffenders, increasing with each offence.

This I can agree with. But I still don’t imagine it would be simple. We need this regardless and it it will take a generation or two to change attitudes.

Proportional representation and constitution forbidding parties supporting racist agenda to field candidates in any election. Some countries have something similar banning neo nazi parties.

PR is a good first step and something I think the Labour government should support. But they like the Tories won’t as it will prevent them from the soaring majorities they’re both used to. And whilst you can ban outright racist parties such as a Nazi party how do you police a party campaigning to reduce migration? That in itself isn’t racist, but a lot of people might lean towards that party. If you keep banning parties eventually you become a despot. Again, really not as simple as you make out. Otherwise UKIP, Reform, et al would have all been banned instantly. But they haven’t.

More direct democracy. More referendums, legally binding but informed ones - taking a simple multiple choice test confirming you know what you voting for would be necessary to be allowed to vote. For your information, vast majority of Brexshit voters brainwashed by racist/£350million propaganda would fail.

The simplest way to create civil unrest. Why would you pay your taxes if you’re going to ban people from voting? Absolute insanity. You’ve broken the civil contract between people and Parliament. People pay taxes and instruct their MPs to vote on issues on their behalf knowing that if they are dissatisfied they can replace them in five years. But your answer is to now remove votes from people? Jaysus I imagine women’s groups and minorities would be up in arms about that.

My friend, what you’re saying simply doesn’t make sense.

People who supported Brexshit don’t need convincing.

OK

They need to be educated or re-educated.

As in a forceful Clockwork Orange style re-education? Or… you know… education via convincing them of a different opinion? What exactly do you think re-education involves?

Until it happens their views should be ignored.

That’s not how voting works in this country (UK). The very process of voting means you’re asking for people’s opinions and views on things and requesting that they choose an option that represents that in a ballot. Are you suggesting that in order to reverse what has already happened we hold another vote and simply not count the ones you disagree with?

I honestly don’t know what your plan is apart from calling people names.

But it sounds like you think anyone that disagrees with you is a racist idiot? And if you’re serious about reversing Brexit you’re going to have to convince people you disagree with that it is in their best interests. Calling them racist idiots is bad way to do that. Do you see that? Or you still don’t care about reversing Brexit?

There were in fact 3 groups of people who voted for Brexshit:

1. Racists
2. Idiots
3. Total cunts.

As a strategy to reverse Brexit and win round people that voted for it, let me break it to you, calling them racist idiot cunts isn’t going to work.

Group 3 should end up in prisons

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Yeah pretty much. As a payment intermediary they’re actually really good. Top of class one could argue.

The executive’s politics aside, trying to boycott them means boycotting all their users. Good luck with that.

Good luck boycotting Stripe

I agree. I just don’t think it will be that way for a good ten years or more.

No, I’m sorry, you don’t simply dismiss views that you don’t hold as being Nazi racist. That’s cheap and does nothing to persuade Labour Brexit voters from rethinking their opposition to the EU. A lot of them feel (felt) that their livelihoods were being constantly threatened by a race to the bottom for cheap labour imported by freedom of movement. The unions were pretty vocal about wanting more state intervention and subsidies that, they felt, were not permitted under EU law.

Now what you need to do is tackle these questions head on and convince these Labour Brexit voters that this isn’t the case. How does a modern Labour party show that these voters haven’t been left behind by EU integration. Calling them Nazis just alienates them and, guess what, causes a crushing defeat to Boris Fucking Johnson.

Yes, the majority of Brexitiers are from former UKIP and Conservative ranks. But I’m constantly surprised how people don’t understand that a sizeable minority of Labour voters pushed Brexit over the line. These are Labour voters that the party still wants to court.

Labour isn’t going to grow a pair. Because growing a pair would send them straight out of office after they fought so hard to get back in.

I won’t comment on the quality of the jobs, I honestly don’t know enough about what happens in a port (apart from what happens in a dock town stays in a dock town 😘). But it was / is a billion of investment. That’s not chump change by any means. The UK can’t be turning its nose up at investment because of morals and a sense of duty. We don’t have the headroom to do so. We’re massively in debt. That’s just the reality.

I totally get what you’re saying. But I still feel that a large part of this resignation storyline is because she rocked the boat.

They can’t, they’re only here to troll. Ignore it.

burguese

LMFAO 😂😂😂