It’s wild for what essentially looks like one of those UE5 tech demos you see on YT.
It’s wild for what essentially looks like one of those UE5 tech demos you see on YT.
In the future, it could power virtual avatars that render locally and don’t require video feeds—or allow anyone with similar tools to take a photo of a person found online and make them appear to say whatever they want.
…or open a dystopian hellscape of disinformation, scams and corporate police state control of information at an unprecedented scale! Three cheers for the reckless pursuit of technology for technologies sake!
I guess I’m curious if the user submitted products are vetted or not. Seems tough for one guy to keep up with that.
It’s amazing that you must work under the assumption that I’m defending facebook in order for your rambling to have any kind of structure.
No one is defending facebook or FISA or anything else shitty the US has done. I said that claiming Facebook is owned by the government or that the US is totalitarian like the CCP is false and now you guys just can’t accept that fact.
God I thought we left this dishonest tankie shit behind on Reddit. But nope, here’s the brigade of fanatics up to their old rhetorical bullshit.
No. The government does not own Facebook. You’re free to make that baseless assertion, but there’s nothing to really say about it other than it’s false on its face and makes you appear unserious.
We’re not talking conspiracy theories, China is not a normal country, it’s literally a totalitarian state in which the government has complete control. Not like hyperbolic “Oh, the US is totalitarian.” but actually totalitarian in the legal and material sense.
Is Facebook owned by the government?
Does anyone even use FB anymore besides boomers?
No. The totalitarian technofascist state of China is not the same as the US, nor are their state owned apps comparable to those of privately owned one regardless of how much of a sociopath Zuckerberg is.
TikTok isn’t just some random, normal app. It’s spyware and a tool for CCP propaganda.
May as well ask why the government would ban Russian anti-virus software.
Who said anything about physically taking over the world? Like, yes, obviously China has imperial ambitions to expand their borders (limited only by the wests hegemony and the now undermined and faltering rules-based order) but that’s not the influence I’m talking about. I’m talking about the normalization of anti-democracy and the technologically driven hyper-fascist state. The more power and influence China gets, the more fascism thrives wherever it has roots.
North Korea also hasn’t been able to bomb a bunch of countries either, that doesn’t mean anyone but an idiot would argue they should be given more influence.
Just like Russia, there’s no global benefit to the CCP gaining more geopolitical influence, they aren’t going to “moderate” the fascist elements in the west, they’re going to inflame them in the interest of destablizing any kind of democratic norms.
It’s kind of revealing really, the CCP clearly doesn’t want this app operating in the US simply to make money otherwise they’d simply sell and move on.
Hopefully users will be able to put 2+2 together themselves once the withdrawal starts to fade.
Uh huh, no shit and eugenics was essentially born in the US. All information I learned here in the US.
History doesn’t change the fact that China still represents the next step towards a higher, more all-encompassing form of fascism and that your apologetics only further humanity’s movement in that direction by normalizing it.
China not having the geopolitical power to act on all of their worst inclinations does not mean those inclinations don’t exist.
Fascism can exist in more than one place.
And it can take a far more dangerous and intractable form in one place compared to another.
You are vastly, vastly understating the degree of fascist control in China, you’d have to in order to try and even begin to try and compare the US and China. You may as well try to claim that downloading Russian spyware gives you better info on the US affairs because they’re our adversary as well so they must be a better source of information than anything in the US, it makes no sense.
China has a pointed interest in deceiving you, they do not have any interest in ensuring you have accurate information about the US and its history, you’re foolish to believe that they would.
There is no true information about the US on TikTok that is not available to me outside of China’s information ecosystem. Yes, you’re not going to get reliable information from corporate media or far-right outlets, but that has not stopped me from learning about the black spots in American history. In fact I was taught many of those black spots in American schools. Go ask a person in China what actually happened in Tienanmen or in Hong Kong, or Tibet or what is happening to the Uyghurs as we speak.
Here’s the difference that you are keen to ignore; The US information ecosystem is not a monolith. It’s why I can go and find sources that are reporting accurately about events in Palentine, or the protests on Columbia campuses. It’s why I learned about the Trail of Tears, the Tulsa Massacre, or The Battle of Blair Mountain in school, why I can find that kind of information freely on the Internet. There are many independent media and journalism outlets that, if I practice some basic media literacy, are not difficult to find.
By contrast, the Chinese information ecosystem is a monolith, by design. It is built so that the state has control over all information and can censor at will. They are far ahead of the US in this regard, and when you carry water for the CCP by equating them to the US, claiming they’re better or “just as bad” you are pushing us further into fascism, not out of it.
Oh, whoops, you thought I was defending the US. Not what I said, but it’s the only way you can deflect from what the Chinese government is.
China being economically destitute for the last century thanks to terrible CCP domestic policies doesn’t somehow change the fact that they represent an even darker path forward for humanity than the US. It’s not really a point that can be argued. China has hundreds of concentration camps, forced mass relocation of Tibetans and other minorities to place them in dormitories they literally can’t leave except during work hours, a national information firewall to control everything their populace sees.
Like, Xi Xinping had fucking execution vans in his lead up to power. Your brain would have to be scrubbed bloody to think China and the US represent the same thing.
I like how you pretend people weren’t sharing their experiences and politics on the million other forms of social media that exist before TikTok. As if everyone was in the dark ages. I’ve seen all the ugly things happening in the US and I don’t use chinese spyware.
China is not just a “boogie man”, it’s literally a technofascist state that tightly controls all information coming into, out of and circulating within its country. It disappears a million Uyghurs into hundreds of concentration camps and its own population is literally the only one on earth that doesn’t realize its happened. The brutalization of peaceful Hong Kong protestors was broadcast around the world and yet mainland chinese still think it was some violent uprising. People there don’t even know the truth about Tinanmen or Tibet.
But somehow that’s all a gap in your knowledge of the world…hmmm, weird must just be a coincidence that the dude who gets all his info from TikTok doesn’t understand that China has the most developed censorship and social engineering apparatus on the planet…surely they suddenly give all that up when operating TikTok in the west.
Eh, I’ll take what I can get. The CCP is a far, far worse influence than the US, their global influence should definitely be restricted wherever possible until the regime changes.
Anyone who has problems with US geopolitical behavior should easily be able to recognize the CCP as a path to an even darker fascist future for humanity.
Except you’re not trying to ask for seatbelts. You’re arguing we get rid of the cars.
No I’m not. You want me to be saying that because it makes it easier for you to make your argument, but that wasn’t what I suggested anywhere.
There are no seatbelts. Its either cars or only public transport.
So you’re essentially (and falsely) asserting that there is no way to regulate AI without eliminating it completely. Do you understand how insane and reckless that sounds?
Should AI be able to give instructions on building a bomb as well because to not do so “sTiFlEs iNnOvAtIoN”?
If people are going to train AI they have an obligation to ensure it’s not producing harm and there should be consequences to those who design and train AI in a reckless or harmful way.
Yes, you should be restricted from creating a child porn generator.
If cars are routinely crashing and sending people through the windshield you require seatbelts.
You’re doing exactly what I’m referring to.
Yes, people who will defend AI in any arena and reject any criticism or examples of harm that it produces. They do this to try and control any narrative or discussion that may lead to regulation. Classifying AI CP as harmful would necessitate action that restricts AI, which AI apologists are very much against. Lemmy is unfortunately overrun with them.
Cue the AI apologists trying to explain how AI child porn is a safe, victim free outlet for pedophiles to indulge in their mental illness.
He’s not wrong. He’s probably saying it for the wrong reasons, but the statement itself is not untrue.
Democrats can’t actually solve any of the issues they campaign on since the more things they actually solve, the fewer issues they have to make their right-wing, milque toast corporate candidates appear distinct from the GOP.
Doing things like legislating abortion, reforming healthcare, protecting minority rights, fixing our broken immigration system etc. would mean they then have to start looking into the real fundemental issues like campaign finance reform and repealing Citizens United and stuff.