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  • Discussions often feel like they’re happening within an ideological bubble.

    While this can be true for some communities, I find that users here do still engage with other viewpoints when the discussions are in good faith.

    I think the reason why a lot of users lean in a certain political direction is because of

    • the origins of Lemmy
    • users that choose to leave the older platforms may have done so for social / political reasons
    • threadiverse is still relatively small

    Do you think Lemmy is at risk of becoming an echo chamber for leftist views, a sort of Truth Social, Parler, Gab, etc., esque platform, but for Leftists?

    I feel like we’re getting more politically diverse over time. It’s only a risk if we force a certain political leaning through moderation.

    Is this a problem we should be concerned about, or is it a natural result of Lemmy’s community-driven nature?

    Worth keeping an eye on to see how it changes over time

    How might we encourage more diverse political perspectives while still maintaining a respectful and inclusive environment?

    Mainly moderation. If a community or space is intended for a particular group, it’s perfectly fine to moderate how you see fit. If it is meant to be a general space, try to limit political biases when moderating and focus on bad faith comments.

    If a post/comment was in good faith, it’s more effective to let someone explain why it is wrong rather than removing it. Chances are that others can learn from the explanation (or that they were correct to begin with, and you’ll learn something)

    What are the potential benefits and drawbacks of having a more politically diverse user base on Lemmy?

    The benefits are easy, I can’t think of many drawbacks. Maybe:

    • More people = higher moderation costs (which can be dealt with by having bigger teams)
    • More drama (we have drama already)






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    The balance I’ve found is

    • if it’s important and I have time: read it myself
    • if it’s important and I don’t have time: save it for later
    • if it’s not important (and I’m fine with reading someone else’s summary of it, knowing that their summary might be wrong), and curious enough, I’ll get a quick AI summary of it. Afterwards I might go back to read it properly if it sounds interesting, or skipping it happy I didn’t waste time on it

    That’s actually why I liked having those summary bots in the comments.

    • only generated once, so it saves some resources compared to many users generating it for themselves
    • people who read the piece or know about the topic can call out issues




  • Looking forward to the sublinks migration, I know a lot of people were looking into it for when it becomes ready!

    Core idea is to create a frontend for simple users who do not want to learn about servers and navigation to use a product. So we are starting with curated feed, once we have traffic, we can add features for advanced users to let users pick any community from any server.

    Well rather, how will you pick which communities go in that feed? It’s not a bad plan, but transparency would encourage your users to use that feed

    Understood. Not everyone has to or will agree with what others are doing. I am trying something different. I am only asking for not enforcing undocumented rules too hard until we have some minimum traffic like let’s say 100 active users in a month

    With how new fediverse tech is, a lot of new rules will be “written” based on what people try. Obfuscating or misleading people on where content is coming from (which is the concern people are expressing here), seems like something people will push back against.

    A simple toggle would fix this issue

    • show the instances (default)
    • simplify my feed (removes the instances)

    Again, while others may disagree, but are there rules on what not to do?

    Nope, no rules on what not to do. Users and other instances are free to decide which ideas to support.

    What I see is that donation approach alone has not generated enough money for any server to be a real competitor. So are others free to try other things?

    I don’t think any one instance is trying to be the replacement alone? That seems to be a big misunderstanding on what people want from the threadiverse. Despite network effects that limit growth, these instances continue to grow, self sustain from donations and grants, and prove how easy it can be to break away from the model big tech companies have adopted.

    My view is that most people chose to use Lemmy/Mbin/PieFed/Sublinks over the established alternatives (ex. Reddit) because they didn’t like how those alrernatives were being run.

    As such, you might find it easier to build a userbase by avoiding what Reddit has done rather than try to emulate it





  • Yea we picked Google forms for convenience mostly. We want to switch to something better at some point. In my quick look around, there are a few self-hosted options that could work.

    Maybe in the future we could collectively make a few templates with the selected questions for that year. That way instances can use whichever method they have the resources to run, but still get the same format of data afterwards

    If your team does come across something better, I’d be interested in exploring further

    Does it log IP addresses of respondents?

    While the survey creator can’t see any of those details, I imagine Google may be tracking things on their end.


  • This is very detailed, thank you for your thoughts!

    That makes sense to me, to organize the questions into

    • base questions (used by everyone, repeated annually)
    • a few questions (used by everyone, on a particular census)
    • instance specific questions (up to each instance)

    I’m going to be away for a few days, but I’ll see about listing out these new questions and other changes. Maybe we can put them somewhere to make it easier to collaborate and track changes?

    For self-identification, free text means people are more likely to write what they actually want instead of trying to push themselves into the box of listed options, even if there is an Other option. However, it’s also a lot of work to group things, and things need to be grouped to make any decent result visualisation. Plus people should be allowed to group themselves instead of me doing it. So I suggest a predefined list with an Other free-text option.

    That makes sense, I’m leaning towards doing that. I’ve also gotten some suggestions on where to get the lists from so that should work :)