The 8 to 9 upgrade wasn’t terribly expensive but the rest were a lot more. Do you think the individual upgrades were worth it? What were the biggest jumps in usability?

I still think of the 4A as the last good Pixel, since it has a headphone jack. So I’ve been wondering if it can run current versions of Graphene.

The main attraction of the 9 from my perspective is NTN (satellite) messaging, but older models might get that later. I certainly don’t want AI in my phone.

I see there are some fairly affordable older Pixels on woot right now, particularly refurbs, but some new units too. Refurb 6 is $145 and refurb 7 is $200. New 9 Pro XL is $900, way more than I’m willing to pay. I wonder whether the older ones are basically as good if you don’t care about AI or the fanciest cameras.

What exactly do you want it to do? You can implement TOTP with a 10 line python script and I probably have a few of those kicking around. I’ve ended up doing that at least a couple of times.

Use a medic alert bracelet if you need something like that. EMTs are trained to look for it. They aren’t going to derp around looking at your phone.

They don’t say what models but it probably doesn’t matter. It’s fine with me if my phone is basically generic. (Moto G Stylus 5g 2023).

I set up ZNC and got it working but it was a pain in the neck, took some trial and error, and the docs were confusing. Once I got it going I basically left it alone rather than try to clean up the situation.

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Empirically, 42.25 instead of 42.

The interesting thing is if the manufacturer is shipping them that way by default.

I’m on ml and it seems pretty general. It has a bit more fringe contingent than world, but everything else is there too.

Yeah I’m particularly wondering what the flagship hardware offers (ok, besides the camera) that is interesting. AI slop-enabling tensor cpu, no thanks. Is Graphene really better than LineageOS?

It’s something of a “14 competing standards” situation, but uv seems to be the nerd favourite these days.

I thought one of the “laws” of consumer electronics was that retail price of a product has to be at least 5x the BOM cost. So for the Pixel 9 Pro to be profitable, there must be a heck of a lot of post-sale revenue coming in from advertising. Ugh.

What does a Pixel 9 Pro do that a $200 retail Moto G doesn’t?

At some point you might just have to just accept it warts and all.

I’ve never felt that interested in flagship phones. Why does anyone buy them if they have warts? Budget phones have similar warts but at least they are affordable. I don’t understand what the Pixel 9 has going for it other than some niche features here and there. I’m not trying to diss Pixel 9 buyers but if I wanted a Pixel at all, I’d probably get an older model. Maybe I’m missing something.

I’m an antifan of Apple but the M4 Max is supposed to be faster than any x86 desktop CPU, and use a lot less power. That’s per geekbench 6. I’d be interested in seeing other measurements.

Good luck!

We have supercomputers in our phones. They can handle it.

Gnus.el

Contacts and dialer should maybe be merged. It’s nice to be able to call someone and make notes in that person’s contact page during the call.

Is there some obstacle to writing them? Special SDK privileges or anything like that? Seems like a good thing to degoogle if possible.

People still pay that much for 8-bit S-100 machines?