• Silverseren@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    “If you can look at the situation and not be on the side of Palestinians, then you are on the wrong side of apartheid and history will show that in time,”

    This post on her part was fine, but the other one…not so much. She should have stuck with this one only, rather than whatever the frick murderous thing that other post was.

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      1 year ago

      Keep in mind she was a Lebanese refugee that lived through the conflict between Hezbollah and Israel. I’m not condoning anything she said but she has a somewhat understandable view of the whole situation.

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        1 year ago

        lived through the conflict between Hezbollah and Israel

        And what about the conflict between actual Lebanon and what became Hezbollah?

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          Israel just murdered 200 children in 3 days, so far. Was that justified?

          Oh, but they’re Palestinian so they don’t count. Otherwise people like you would have lost their minds decades ago.

          When the Hamas murders children it’s terrorism, it’s an atrocity, it’s inhuman (and I agree).

          When the IDF murders children it’s Tuesday.

          It’s on the news every day. And people like you couldn’t care less.

          Keep chewing on that nice Zionist propaganda. I choose humanity.

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            1 year ago

            Why can’t we condemn both?

            Hamas committed atrocities and Israel has responded with atrocities. That doesn’t make calling Hamas “freedom fighters” in this context any less deplorable.

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      1 year ago

      Is there a quote for the other post? I heard it was just paraphrased, so we don’t know what she actually said

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        Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal," she wrote on the platform on Saturday.

        That’s all. If you’re very inattentive or deliberately misinterpreting her words, you’d think that she was endorsing Hamas as “freedom fighters”.

        But if you DO pay attention and know anything, you’ll notice that she never mentions Hamas and know that Hamas aren’t usually the ones filming any of their atrocities. Add her clarification from a few days later and it’s clear that she did NOT endorse Hamas and is the victim of character assassination because she had the temerity to speak up against the apartheid regime:

        I just want to make it clear that this statement in no way shape or form is [inciting] spread of violence," she said. "I specifically said freedom fighters because that’s what the Palestinian citizens are… fighting for freedom every day.

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            1 year ago

            There are other kinds of fighting than violence on a grand scale. Regular Palestinians are fighting the apartheid regime in ways big and small every day.

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              1 year ago

              Thanks, that’s pretty much what I figured you’d say. The down vote was a nice touch.

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                1 year ago

                Yeah, I have this odd quirk of downvoting sealions when they ask bad faith questions with obvious answers that they refuse to accept. I’m kooky like that!

                  • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf
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                    1 year ago

                    A good faith question is when you’re honestly seeking clarification either because you don’t know something or don’t know what the other person means.

                    Sealioning is when you’re “just asking questions” in a manipulative manner with no intention of taking the answers seriously under consideration or making a valid point of your own.

                    It’s often used in place of an actual argument when the sea lion knows that their point isn’t strong enough to withstand scrutiny.

                    Here’s the origin of the term afaik: