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    But voting only determines which face of aristocracy is in power?

    If someone unacceptable wins, it gets fiat discarded.

    Not even hypothetical. Remember that time a bland vaguely well intentioned nerd won an election against the grandson of the guy who was gonna be German ambassador in the business plot government, and they just threw the whole election out and gave it to the third generation fascist oligarch guy?

    Do real action, and while theres nothing wrong with spending five minutes to vote, remember it is not politics and won’t save you, get you infrastructure, or stop a bullshit war. Not ever.

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      7 months ago

      it is not politics and won’t save you, get you infrastructure, or stop a bullshit war. Not ever.

      Not ever.

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      If Al Gore had won Florida outright, there’d be no recount, no Brookes Brothers riot, no 5-4 decision cancelling democracy, and quite possibly no September 11th attacks. Plus eight extra years of giving a shit about climate change instead of openly funneling no-bid contracts to a third-gen oligarch’s decrepit oil-baron vice president.

      All of that evil came from one fucking state being within 500 votes. A situation caused by inane “douche v turd” denial that politics matter, god dammit.

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        Of course, alternate-universe super geniuses would whine about VP Lieberman trying to outlaw video games or whateverthefuck. I guess that’s as bad as starting two land wars in Asia Minor.

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        Also gore did win Florida though. The only reason he ‘didn’t win outright’ is because of tampering and tantrums by fascists.

        He won. He won by all your fucking rules and if elections mattered, he would’ve been president.

        One vote, 500 votes, because George bush didn’t win by any votes, and he got to be president.

        “My shit doesn’t work so we just gotta do it harder and if it doesn’t work its your fault for not committing” you know I could say the sane thing about direct action, but that actually does work.

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          Outright winners don’t need recounts. There’d be nothing to tamper with. No opportunities for fascists on the ground to do direct action, or fascists in power to ignore the close results and make up whatever they like. The election would simply have been won.

          But that didn’t happen.

          And the reason it didn’t happen is that a lot of people stayed home, thanks to bullshit like yours.

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            He did win outright! Al gore won the election outright!

            “The rules are made up and the points don’t matter so anyone who causes us to not get as many points as possible is a Nazi

            And also the people making giving you points a massive moral compromise that makes my stomach turn isnt at all to blame.

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              “Outright” is not decorative. Words… mean things. Al Gore won the election, technically. But the margin was so slim that there was a recount. There would not be a recount, if he had won the election… unambiguously.

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      That shit was only possible thanks to “both sides” horseshit keeping turnout low and results close.

      You are part of the problem.

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              ‘Your actions cause the problems you’re pointing to to excuse your actions.’

              ‘So you admit there’s problems.’

              Shoo, enabler.

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                So you’re saying the rules are made up and the points don’t matter

                Therefore we need even more points than the rules say we need

                And the guy making that an unpalatable moral compromise getting raped for six hours straight, instead of a thing you pester your roommates to hop in he car and grudgingly take an hour off to do, that guy isn’t at all at fault.

                You shit the bed and failed to fight for the rules, you offer me a shit deal I don’t even want, and you scold me for not lifting a finger? Fuck you.

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                  ‘I’m the one who gets to complain about words meaning things! Also I’m going to call feeling icky about voting, gang rape, because that sounds worse.’

                  You are why rules about ‘never be mean, ever’ cause more trolling than they solve. Get out of my inbox.