• JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The fact apple gets to decide which app stores are allowed and which aren’t kind of defeats the point of this decentralisation attempt

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        4 months ago

        The point ist to not buy an iPhone. Buy Hardware that supports your rights, not hardware that actively fights it.

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          4 months ago

          And put software on that hardware that preserves your rights. I use GrapheneOS on a Pixel, and there are ROMs for other hardware as well:

          • LineageOS
          • CalyxOS
          • /e/OS

          Each has tradeoffs, but the point is to pick something you control and force apps to meet you where you are. If enough people do that, app developers will accommodate them.

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            4 months ago

            Exactly this. People need to Start take responsibility for their purchases. Getting graphene to run on a supporte device is literally doable via a web browser.

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      4 months ago

      I think you read it wrong then. It just says that Apple has accepted it, not that they decide.

      It is EU who makes the rules. This just implies that Apple is on board or have been forced to do so.

      If Apple had denied, it would break the rules laid upon them.

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        4 months ago

        The fact apple has the option to accept or deny a third party store means they get to decide what third party stores are allowed on their device. The spirit of the law that the EU punished them for would say that apple should not have any say in what the users install on their devices, similar to how Aptoide, f-droid, and other third party app stores exist on android without requiring Google’s approval. Apple is just doing all they can to comply to the smallest legal degree they can to make as much money as possible from the waiting period between EU wristslaps.

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          4 months ago

          All iOS apps on the app store need app approval. It’s the same for Googles app store, and I bet Samsungs and Amazon’s as well.

          They test your app and make sure it functions and meets some basic guidelines.

          The EU isn’t giving 3rd party stores carte blanche to break the rules, so yes apple has to approve it.

          I imagine there’s probably some extra rules just for app stores, but if that’s the case (I don’t know) they’d need to be reasonable or they’d get in trouble.

          I am curious though if apple can enforce rules on what apps go on the 3rd party store.

          Edit: lots of edits for clarity, but also, apple appears to be being a dick in the process of approving this and abusing their position.

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            4 months ago

            That’s just an excuse imo, it’s the exact thing apple is known for, using fine print to be an asshole

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        Well they had denied, because the placement of the Install button was too similar to where it is in their own store 🙄, and changed course to temporarily approve it.

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    5 months ago

    Only a matter of time before they move the goal posts again to protect their monopoly. Tim Cook is a bully.

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      4 months ago

      Apple is just sorta gross in general, Tim’s just the icing on top.

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        They used to be cooler and their products have always provided a superior experience. They were counter culture in the 80s, 90s and 00s with their bluebox roots, anti-IBM/anti-Wintel marketing, tiny market share and focus on creators and education.

        Now that they are successful they are essentially using Microsoft’s old playbook and bullying everyone into using their products. Really makes me sad.

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          You must not remember the steaming pile of shit that system 8 & 9 was. Their focus on the education market was to get a generation used to using their products and they would stay in the Apple ecosystem after school. Their investment in education was mostly a smokescreen. They’ve also been bullying since the iPhone 4 right after they started having success in the mobile market. Remember when they said you’re holding the phone wrong?

          Anyone in the industry during that time knew Steve Jobs was an asshole during his first stint at Apple and even more so when he came back from NeXT. He laid the foundation for this behavior then built an empire. The culture doesn’t seem to have changed much.

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            I was always more of a dos/win95 and then Linux person but I did appreciate the Apple vibe and what they were trying to do with their ecosystem in terms of usability. The Wintel monopoly was a scourge but you’re right, Steve Jobs was also terrible.

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              Everyone that complained about the wintel dominance I always found humorous because their alternative was PowerPC which was developed by Apple IBM and Motorola and fabbed by IBM. Not saying it was or wasn’t better, it just didn’t feel like a better alternative on the surface with it being done up by IBM and Apple.

              There were so many architectures and they’ve all fallen off the face of the earth. My favorite search engine when I was a kid ran on 2 DEC alpha servers.

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      4 months ago

      That’s why the EU election is the most important election for the world, because no one else is doing anything.