I designed a part that has compartments for small neodymium magnets. The compartments open up on the side of the part, but ideally the entire part should look smooth and featureless, and the epoxy I use is not the same color as the PLA. Also, I’d like to be able to fish out the magnets later, and epoxy is a bit too final for my taste.
So I’m thinking of dropping a small dollop of melted PLA into the openings to seal them, then file / polish them smooth. It would be sticky enough to hold the magnets in place yet easy to pop off with something pointy or sharp if need be.
And to do that cleanly, I figured I’d get me one of those cheap freehand 3D pens as a kind of precision “glue gun” for PLA. And it occurs to me that I might also be able to use it to “weld” small parts together, and hand-write things on parts with a different color filament.
I’m not much of an artist so I have no use for a 3D pen as an artsy tool. But it seems like a useful thing to have alongside a 3D printer, and they’re not that expensive - even the more expensive Mynt3D 3D Pen Pro, which is the one I’m eyeing.
Does anybody know if those 3D pens can be used for small manual reworks / assembly of PLA parts?
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I do this right regularly. I created a huge trash can shape container using 8 separate pieces printed in PLA. I then glued together with CA glue and welded the pieces with a 3D pen to make the joints stronger.
A couple of things to remember:
3D pen don’t push the filament like a 3D printer does. You have to slow the flow of the pen down, and let the filament bind to the layers below
There’s a big difference how different PLA will behave with a 3D pen. Some filaments won’t stick as well like others
You have to mimic the behaviour of a printer with the pen. So you have to lay down layers of filament, rather than trying to make it behave like a glue gun.
Good information. Makes sense too. thanks!
I’ve used a cheap 3D pen to weld smaller prints together. Works pretty well. You have to be quick because once the filament starts to cool it doesn’t bind well. It also doesn’t look that pretty, but I only use it in areas that aren’t visible in the finished product. If you’re planning on sanding it after I think you’d be fine.
I was planning on doing the same kind of thing as real metal welds - you know, beveling the edges and filling up the bevel right-left-right-left if it’s very deep. I wasn’t really planning on using the molten PLA as glue to assemble parts solidly.
I have the MYNT pen you have pictured and I’ve used it a few times to patch up bad holes or other spots on prints that I did on my 3d printer.
It does the job when it comes to filling spots and am guessing it would easily do what you are describing. I know I find it a little unwieldy (I think that’s the right word) when it comes to making it do intricate things. I’ve seen pictures of detail work people claim they’ve done with them and meh - it’s beyond me. I’m decent with an airbrush but it doesn’t handle the same way.
I guess keep in mind - the pluses is that it uses the same filament you are using so it will match color wise.
The minuses is that it can be inconsistent with the flow rate and can be uneven with how it fills and looks so be prepared to (possibly) do a little extra sanding to get it level.
Good to know, thanks!
Yeah I dig that it uses the same filament. That’s important, both so that the material is consistent, and to not have to buy specialized supplies.
I’m sure it will produce different results from the printer, but that’s to be expected since they don’t work the same way.
I’ve done this before on smaller parts and it works. The result is very ugly-looking in my case though.
I designed a part that has compartments for small neodymium magnets.
If the magnets are orientated with the layers you can always pause the print at the top of where the magnet needs to be embedded, just before the final bridging layer and insert the magnets mid print. Then resume the print and it should seal them in with a clean layer above it. Should be much cleaner then using a 3d pen to cover it up after the fact.
As for sticking parts together I can see it being useful for smaller or thinner parts, but for larger areas there are glues out there like gloop that can essentially melt and weld parts together more effectively with larger open times then you have with rapidly cooling pla.
I can see it being useful for spot repairs or filling holes or tacking parts together while you wait for glues to set.
Yeah I thought of pausing the print to slip the magnets in before letting the printer seal the holes.
The problem is, it’s a long print and the magnets are located at different heights. So it would stop 4 times and I’d have to watch it to come insert the magnets and hit the resume button. I’d rather be doing something else 🙂
You can use a slicer feature which will pause at some specific layer, if you have a dedicated app on your phone, it will notify you that printer has been paused.
Unfortunately that’s not an option: the printer isn’t mine - it’s my employer’s - it’s 15 miles away and it’s not on the network anyway. It’s a Prusa Mk4 and it doesn’t have the wifi module.
Typically I start a big print before leaving work and it’s ready when I come back the next morning, so I don’t annoy my coworkers using the printer for actual work during the day.
You could also print 2 layer circles/rectangles to cap the hole. Then melt/glue/weld the edges. Could use a soldering iron, hot knife, any glue or the 3dpen to do that and I would think it would give you a more consistent surface than the pen alone (and may not requite it at all). Worth trying at least.
Might even be worth creating a stepped hole to give better gluing surface like:
I thought of doing something similar, but dovetailing the edge of the hole and making the plug slightly thicker so I could actually hammer it in - possibly cold - and make the material flow into the dovetail. Exactly like metal inlays. This would mechanically lock the plug in place.
Unfortunately, the walls around the magnets are really thin, so any hammering or applying heat beyond what a printer would apply laying filament on them is likely to deform / destroy them.
Or just glue it in… The glue is likely to be stronger then the thin layers of the 3d printed plug so you won’t get much from a mechanical interlock. And then there is no pressure or risk of deforming anything.
For joining parts, you could also consider friction welding. I’m not sure how easy it would be to fill a cavity, but bond strength would be great since you would also be the heating the original part.
The part is too small. It would immediately go through the part. Even opening up 1mm holes with a 1mm drilling has to be done no faster than a few rpm, otherwise the material softens and deforms.
