Went ahead and watched it. It’s great. Thanks.

It’s a good analogy as well. Others have suggested “home” - it’s a good alternative.

That’s another issue I have: Maybe that could be resolved by implementing something similar to (or exactly) openid.

I feel the software we choose might limits us on the kind of thing we’re interested in, that’s why I have to have a lemmy account - I wouldn’t have a discussion like this one on mastodon, for example - and a mastodon account. Maybe a pixelfed account, a peertube account… what a mess! But that’s a subject for another discussion (this discussion was “Permanently Deleted”?!).

Sorry, I misunderstood you, then. :-)

@julesbl@mastodon.me.uk argues that this has been tried and failed here.

You might be right about being able to do almost anything whatever the instance you choose, as long as you already figured it all out, but having an account at a lemmy server, and two at two different mastodon servers, I do have the feeling that the presence on any of them is a different experience.

Don’t forget that what most people’s experience on the fediverse comes probably via mastodon and that they start by getting most of their content via home and local feeds. Federated comes third, i guess.

I am still struggling to find content on some of my preferred topics…

Thanks for the guide.

And the term would reinforce the need do stick to that entity rules. I agree.

That’s what I was thinking about.

I have to acknowledge the point @otter@lemmy.ca makes about there being a collision with the term “community” in the threadiverse perspective. Maybe “home” or even “tribe” or “people” would be a better fit. But I still do think that “community” encompasses the feeling best, and that collision will be promptly resolved once the user understands what communities really are on that narrower scope.

That’s maybe a compromise we will (have to | want to) make.

Once again - that’s my feeling, but I could be wrong.

The evolution of trust

Wasn’t there something already close to this? “OpenId”?..

Just stumbled upon this: https://wedistribute.org/2025/08/social-web-foundation-is-betting-big-on-client-to-server-api/

Let’s just hope…

Couldn’t IpenId fulfill this need? Do we really need to reinvent the wheel?

I wouldn’t mind having my identity just be a hash (of username@domain and some salt, for example) and have all other fediverse servers use that to authenticate and authorize me but display the username, logo, bio, etc that I had registered on that domain.

Maybe let me overide some information for context per site or inherit from the original id provider.

Then I could be known as FatFingersJoe at the guitar players site where I’m learning scales and SenseiJoe at the karate forum for my dojo. :-D

,or maybe I’m just missunderstanding this fediverse thing alltoguether! :-/

What I allways felt we needed was a federated identity system. Then all posts on a platform could just be followed on any other platform.

Now, joe@one.site has to create a separate account on other.site, but joe@other.site is already taken, so he has to go with doe@other.site and resort to solutions like this one to post to several locations at once.

What I whould suggest is to just create some kind of federated identity provider so that Joe can just be joe@joe.site and post on one.site, other.site or whatever.site he wants and have his posts federate magicaly throughout the fediverse.

Of course, moderation would have to be based more on user accounts than on nodes, I gess…

Wasn’t there something already close to this? “OpenId”?..

Hum… good to know.

I have no experience with hubzilla. Only mastodon and lemmy. And have no idea of how facebook or twitter work.

Lets just hope the fediverse finds ways to deal with problems on the fly…

I’m afraid you might be right!

What’s your theory?

My nightmare goes like this:

• Some form of spam and plain wrongdoing will emerge with the rise of awareness about this fediverse thing.
• To cut a long story short: then some form of control will have to be put in place - like spam filters, blacklists, server whitelists and the like - and the hole thing goes the way of the email and the usenet, making it almost impossible to keep a server as an independent hobbyist.
• Some cleaver provider will offer a free $ervice and enforces the control techniques mentioned above reinforcing its use and closing the circle.

My hope:

• This thing will “never fly” and consequently only really committed and interesting people will linger. Great!
• A second best hypothesis is becoming the second best forever - the best place to be, like linux.
• The fediverse community gets really large and popular and has so many servers and services that it becomes impossible to capture by a single giant player.
• People will “see it coming” and vote intelligently with their feet refusing the big players and choosing freedom instead. Hahahaha!..

No, I’m not sure of that. And the idea that it’s just a scam is what’s bugging me.

That’s my feeling as well, but… really? Randal Schwartz is hoping for me to follow him back?! The guy is a legend, I’m no one (literally - Ninguém means “no one” in portuguese).

As @floo@retrolemmy.com said, I can’t see a way for it to be nefarious except if it is some new kind of spam. But Randal wouldn’t exactly fit in “new people joining the platform without really understanding exactly how following people and following hashtags on mastodon is different than how it worked on Twitter or Instagram.”

Bah! I’ll just leave them there until they get tired of my boring conversations. 😁

NOSTR clients?

Hum!..

Didn’t know that.

It will maybe come with time like @azdle@news.idlestate.org said…

O saw that post fly by in the distance some time ago (it’s from Fri, 22 November 2024), but only skimmed through it because it was to long for that moment. It still is, so I’ve added it to my “read it later when you dare” app.

On one hand, maybe Christine Lemmer-Webber agrees with me in the sense that ATProto might end up being somewhat decentralized. The DID problem could perhaps be circumvented. On the other hand, here’s a quote from the text that I did like:

When you build architecture that in theory anyone can participate in, but the barrier to entry is so high so that only those with the highest number of resources can participate, then you’ve still built a walled garden. – Morgan Lemmer-Webber, (summarizing things succinctly in our household over breakfast)

The quote might argue against my assumption that just having the possibility of owning a (fediverse) server might entice enough people to participate in the ecosystem… just like email, I guess.

Again: didn’t read the full article. Only tldred it and presumed the rest.

Maybe, I don’t know. I’m not familiar with how ATProto works. But the ATProto is not very “decentralized”, is it? Or is it just a case of not many people caring to link their instances to ATProto servers?

Maybe the problem I described earlier?