• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Why split things like bathrooms or hospital wards by sex or gender anyway? Any solution that validates trans people while still separating genders is only going to be a bandage solution at best, as it doesn’t solve the underlying issue of sexism “I can’t be in the same room as someone of another sex/gender, that would be terrible!” Like what? Are we trying to accommodate religious idiots instead of trans people or something?

    • Flax@feddit.uk
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      6 months ago

      No, it’s to stop putting men in the same wards as women in case the men rape the women or harass them. It’s about protecting women.

      • peg@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        No, it’s to make women who assume they will be raped feel safe. Men don’t just rape women because they’re in the same room. They don’t change gender to improve their rape opportunities either.

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          6 months ago

          Oh no no, if I’m even in the same room as a woman alone as a cis male I’m obligated to rape a woman

          /s

          • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            6 months ago

            This shit is so blatantly and openly misandrist, I can’t even imagine growing up as a boy hearing this rhetoric thrown around how you’re just a monster and you can’t prove otherwise, spread by what you would assume at first are kind old ladies on the street.

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        6 months ago

        so, the only way to address the problem of sexual violence in hospitals is just to divide the population in two? this is just like the bathroom bullshit. if you’re assuming that trans women are rapists, you are a transphobe. if you’re assuming that sex-segregated wards are a useful deterrent to rape, you’re an idiot. the thing stopping people from hurting patients in the hospital is the hospital. the staff, the doors, the nurses, the help buttons beside each bed, the check-ins by doctors and nurses.

        • n3m37h@sh.itjust.works
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          6 months ago

          There is a reason why hospitals have “sex” instead of “gender” on their paperwork because gender is fucking useless now

          • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            6 months ago

            I always say female anyway and so do all trans women I know. I specify “biological” if asked because I’m not a cyborg either. This isn’t some gotcha you think it is and idc what other dogwhistles you invent. Cope and seethe.

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              6 months ago

              Biologically trans women ARE men. You obviously cared somewhere along the line till it comes to something that actually matters

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                Biologically trans women are trans women, they have very little in common with cis men other than chromosomes, they’re not the same as cis women entirely but have far more in common with them.

                The average trans woman has had her T levels nuked for decades, usually below cis women levels and E levels same as a cis woman, their bodies are completely different including their genitalia most of the time.

                As far as the actual medical truth of the matter we are not cis men, I don’t have to worry about testicular, prostate or penile cancers but I do have to worry quite a bit more than a cis man about breast cancer for example.

              • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                You obviously cared somewhere along the line till it comes to something that actually matters

                What are you even trying to get across here?? lmao

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                  6 months ago

                  Pointing out your hypocrisy when it comes to the safety of people, women in this case.

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                    I’m one of the people that would be forced into a room with women and I have no tits and grow facial hair my dude. It doesn’t make me or them safer. Your position is simply stupid and coming from a place of bigotry.

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          6 months ago

          Well they aren’t the same as normal women either, so what are they?