Maybe learn Vietnamese. They fought the French, the US, China, and Cambodia one after the other, and won. They must know some shit.
Or fight fascists to prevent a doomsday. Instead of voting them into office.
There’s a significant percentage of preppers who want doomsday to come, because they think they will get to be a leader & have an “I told you so” moment, instead of the community seizing the spoils of their preparation.
They all think they’ll be Immortan Joe, and not the legless dude living in the bombed out sewer begging for water.
The sad part is that so many people feel this is the only way to become a winning, respected member of their local community.
Accelerationnists. Interestingly they come in all flavours of the political spectrum.
And most preppers prepped for the wrong doomsday. Many got screwed during covid because they only prepped for war. It would also be shit if you prepped your entire life, spent thousands on it, then it to never happen. And most preppers think they prepped properly, but they lack the intelligence and/or skills to actually use everything they have or they forgot crucial components.
They rioted because they couldn’t go to Dennys or get professional haircuts, they weren’t prepared for anything.
I have to say, i was brexit prepping for a while and when covid hit it was a little satisfying sitting there with my well stocked pantry and decent stocks of toilet roll while other people were queueing out of the supermarkets
Fair, but that’s not doomsday prepping. I also have a well stocked pantry in case the payment system gets hacked and shops can’t open, or something similar. That’s always smart, to prepare for at least a week food wise. But that’s different than hoarding war meals, weapons, combat gear, water purification systems, diesel generator and loads of fuel, etc. in your backyard bunker.
We all gotta start punching more fascists.
(I can’t fight and I’m weak shit, so can someone throw in an extra hit on my behalf please? I’ll get you a milkshake as thanks.)
Same with me. But for that they invented tire irons and baseball bats. Tasers work nicely too. As a hacker you can do damage to them as well, financially for example. There are more ways to hurt them. If can’t pack a punch like me, think outside the box, be creative.
I mean, I know how to shoot and own a firearm. But I also work in IT and I have access to a lot of things that could hinder the small-time local facists in my area if I started fucking with shit.
Using a gun helps the fascists to justify their violence. Look at the past political gun violence incidents. Even though the gunmen were right wing, they twisted it to them being left to justify unconstitutional acts against political opponents, media, minority groups and democrats.
Doing IT related stuff in the shadows is the better option imo.
I’m a strong supporter of Americans learning Greco Roman wrestling or Sombo. It will take you far in life when people want to get hands on.
These people figure everyone else will do the hard stuff, and one day they’ll all come to their senses after rebuilding and realize they need a beans and guns guy. It’s a kind of narcissistic laziness.
Well yes, we need the vents for his bunker, where else do we empty the latraines?
Those fuckers probably have turrets outside their bunkers and will shoot on site.
Turrets run out of ammo eventually they also need a vent for air. Would be real bad if they got blocked.
Plus without supporting infantry you can just roll up behind a very thick steel plate, doesn’t matter that it’s slow as you can take as long as you like
Without supporting infantry all you need to do is somehow splash some paint on the lenses of their cameras.
Get a single back hoe and pour rocks in front of the door.
Nah…the people who fill their bunker with beans and guns are the same people who will use their guns to take from those who build gardens and communities.
In other words, they want all of the benefits of a community without putting in anything in return.
Or to put it even more simply: conservatives.
I’ve played an enormous amount of post apocalyptic simulations and video games, so I’ve got some insight on how this typically goes:
The bunkers with beans and guns are rare, but usually whoever is inside died of something really common, like an infection, broken leg or a stroke, and was unable to get medical aid in time.
There’s also loot boxes/caches in the woods where you see someone tried to be completely solo and typically “having weapons” is way less valuable than knowing how to use them
The OG meme is right, you need other people in “the apocalypse”, going it alone is a death sentence, even basic things can become enormously difficult (many hands make for light work)
Make sure at least one of the people you know is a doctor, surgeon, or nurse of some kind
And if the “guns-people” ever band together (band-its) and try to take stuff away, they typically don’t have coordinated field tactics or military discipline, it’s a slog but battling the cannibals with a regular army does eventually result in their extinction
Risky game when the community garden people know which parts of the plants are toxic or not. Come try this “sloe berry” jam I made…
Let’s be honest, if there is a global apocalypse and the only people left are the billionaires in their bunkers, how long are they really going to hang around doing their own laundry, eating canned food, and watching reruns?
They will be rapidly killed by their private military teams and a bunch of warlords will break out from that.
Iirc they are thinking about putting some kind of Killswitch collar to their “bodyguards” in “exchange” of a place in the bunker should an event arrive for this reason.
BEANS
Mm beans tho
Is that a fish smoking a cigarette? With its eye?
Well now I can’t see anything but that!
Now see, right there, that’s the kinda shite you need to learn if you wanna survive the apocalypse.
It is a fish with a hook in it’s mouth
IT IS MOUTH
Yes? So what? Don’t your fish do that?
Porque no los dos?
Community engagement is vital, and we should all be involved with outreach, education, and mutual aid.
I think we all understand that we’re on our own now, and if we want our communities to survive and thrive we need to take ownership and contribute.
But it’s naive as fuck to pretend we won’t be on our own protecting those communities as well. Arm up, train up.
Join your local CERT, learn and get free stuff and meet people
What does CERT mean in this context? I’m only getting tech-related results. (Computer emergency response team.)
In this context, Community Emergency Response Team.
Geeks helping geeks?
Hey, you’re just preparing for a different doomsday. How do you know they’re not preparing for an animal uprising, where all the bears, elk, and wolves team up to eliminate their human overlords? In that scenario, preparing hunting material makes tons of sense.
Damn…that’s just about perfect
- The moment I start learning the names of my neighbors I get: “What are you a cop? Scram!” or just get shot at the front porch. The moment I ask them their trade I get arrested by cops they called for “being too nosy.”
- “That’s my stuff! Don’t touch it! Stop trespassing my property!”
- “Do you have a license for this garden?”
- Polyester Paradise
- Self defense requires Gun praxis, and bean storage food aid.
Once those mentalities above are fixed, there‘s is no doomsday preparation that will take place.
No idea why you are being down votes here and I wish people could explain why.
Formee in doomsday I don’t really want to trust anyone.
No idea either. I am an anarchist, I can only help the willing. I know where the willing meet. Canvassing never works. Mentalities have to change for actual change to give.
You are welcome to @ them.
Yes, that stuff is very important Mom, now me and the boys gotta push back some traveling renegades that want to pillage our stores and goods. With our gun. And because we have so many really good guns, we will win. Store arms is essential dooms day prepping
With our gun. And because we have so many really good guns
Literally all our violence problems in the USA stem from this kind of massive insecurity and self-reaffirmation. The guns are a product of this kind of feeling of isolationism and fear, not a cause.
How do you know if someone is a conservative white american? They will start babbling about firearms almost instantly when you talk about the possibility of destabilization.
How do you know if someone is one of the many millions of liberal or leftist firearm owners? You won’t. They don’t feel need to whip it out and stroke it in front of strangers. The Finnish are laughing at you.
The post here is both right and wrong. You do need guns to survive in a post-collapse situation, but vast, vast majority of gun-toting americans would either not survive or become the worst kinds of raiders and bandits themselves because they don’t create community or sustainable systems in that community to keep people alive, and tend to ignore the importance of countless other facets of actual survival.
After a few years the guns will be useless and without resources. Long term survival does not revolve around stock piling unsustainable weapons or once-off use food supplies.
After a few years the guns will be useless and without resources
Lol I own guns that are older than your grandpa. I also reload my own ammo. None of this stuff has a shelf life.
Oh, that’s really cool. So how do you get the minerals for the explosives and the raw metal for the bullets?
By robbing other people’s bunkers obviously /s.
The point isn’t to sustainably be able to make ammunition for the next 10 generations. It’s to be able to hunt and protect my farm from predators and bandits. If shit ever really hits the fan having a bunker full of beans isn’t going to save you. But knowing how to live off the land and having the means to do so may very well be the difference between life and starving to death. If all of the sudden tomorrow the supermarket did not have food what would you do? Try to go to TikTok and find survival lifehacks? Me personally I would go out to my chicken coop and gather some eggs. Then make my way to the garden to pick some vegetables (if it’s winter, I should have canned vegetables). After that I would probably go milk my goats (I don’t have goats yet, hopefully next year though lol.) finally I would probably make a loop around the area to check on my neighbors and see if they need anything, maybe trade them some eggs, while also looking for game to hunt.
Not everyone who does this type of shit is some whiny bunker baby who’s waiting to live out their mad max fantasy. I’m not a doomsday prepper, I’m a homesteader.
So you’re very much not the stockpiling only guns and beans type of person, so why are you feeling so called out?
Go read a book about it.
Now that knowledge is so accessible… blah blah blah
Damn an experienced blacksmith, miner, surveyor, metallurgist, chemist, fabricator, and more all in one?
God bless you, brother
