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      This lot don’t even have a snazzy dress sense. They should be required to at least do it properly and at least where the uniform, let’s have a bit of self-respect around here.

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    This isn’t even getting to the part where Nick Fuentes gets red in the face arguing that he’s definitely a real incel, and denying accusations that he secretly gets laid.

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    Not at all an important detail but pepe did not become a white nationalist symbol until winging dip shit out of touch loser candidate said it was.

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    The fuckers can carry on knocking each other off and Vlad should advise them to use the 6th floor windows and balconies instead of bullets.

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    It’s made up BS. Most of the conservatives using pepe avatars don’t even know wtf fuentes is. I can confirm because I’m one of those people who wears a pepe the frog mask on forums. The left-wing and MSM hate that conservatives have this mask to anonymize themselves with and they’re trying to peg them all to a white nationalist is an attempt to discredit and take down the entire group.

    Well it’s not going to work. I’m going to keep posting conservative things behind a pepe avatar. You can call me whatever you want. Say I’m a follower of fuentes, or hitler, or satan, or devour the souls of the innocent like cthulhu. I don’t care. I’m still gonna wear my frog mask.

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      Haha… yes, the Pepe mask is for conservatives “to anonymize themselves”, even though the forums and platforms they’re already on are already anonymous?

      Don’t kid yourself - its just a virtue signal to the conservative racist ingroup that you’re one of them. Its a ‘safe space hat’.

      You reply to some random repost of a Twitter comment that its all part of an evil leftist MSM plot to get rid of the Pepe avatars but you’re standing proud in defiance? Nobody is trying to get rid of them - they’re handy identifiers for trolls and chuds. But yeah, uh… great speech. Preach. Keep your cute frog mask!

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      I think people hate right-wingers because they commit so much more violence on average. Like, by a factor of like 700%.

      Why do you side with such violent people?

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            [I get that.] I turned auto correct off years ago and cant be bothered to hit shift most of the time. Besides, im not calling anyone stupid.

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              “im” still has me actually smiling. Yeah, sort of. You’re giving prescriptive advice, which is what’s giving me the giggles. It’s funny.

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                Idk. Imo, the spelling of words matters much more than punctuation and capitalization. “Your” and “you’re” have wildly different meanings. If i understand the marriam-webster definition of prescriptivism correctly, it pertains more to the spelling and cultural understanding of the word. Perscriptivism would be saying that what they said was blatantly wrong; which i didnt do. But calling someone stupid while mispelling the main subject of the sentence is pretty ironic and happens a lot.

                [For instance: M-W uses the words irregardless and regardless for their example. For this specific scenario, i would say ur is better than your]

                But i can just take my stupid elsewhere i suppose (get it? Lol)

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      Poor Pepe didn’t deserve to be turned into a hate symbol. Now all my rare Pepes are worthless.

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      When the only redeeming quality of your speech is that it is free, then your speech is also worthless. Using the pepe avatar is just the discount sticker making it easier to spot.

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      You…wear a mask? On forums? So that people can’t see you while you’re posting…? What are you talking about?

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    If anyone’s feeling pretty hopeless about finding this out for the first time, I recommend this documentary about the cartoon frog’s creator suing Alex Jones and trying to take back his ownership over Pepe from the white power weirdos. It’s very uplifting and the artist is a pretty likable guy.

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    I KNOW RIGHT???

    And people were like “oh the killer carved UWU what’s this and Helldivers 2 memes on his bullets, that’s common in Groyper circles”

    Bro are you talking aboutttttt, what do you mean???
    I just find it absurd how these niche-in-a-niche-in-a-niche communities develop and how seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles inside, it reaches a point where I’m just like dude, our lizard brains can’t handle the internet. We just weren’t wired to work like this, there’s no way

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      Fuck, we invent some useless shit. I wonder what’ll be around in 50 years? Tea cosy wars? A disdain for people with attached ear lobes? A religion that proclaims the colour yellow to be heresy?

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      Targeting Charlie Kirk

      What the fuck?! Seems pretty relevant to look into re: the past week but no let’s blame it on leftists

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        Fuentes himself was almost murdered last December by a guy who killed three other people and two dogs that day and ended up getting killed by the police. He went there specifically for Fuentes but I don’t think it was some foot soldier following orders. No idea if the guy was on the left but I kinda don’t really think he was.

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      Even though it is a well written, informative and comprehensive article, I still feel like I am losing braincells reading it. It is so incredibly stupid what some humans stoop to.

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        Same. At one point I found myself skimming words without taking them in and I had to stop.

        I did learn one important thing from all of this though - there are more fractures and divisions among the far right than there appears. Ever-smaller factions fighting amongst each other is better than one coherent group fighting the rest of us.

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    My one consolation over finding out about this whole fight between different groups of fascists (besides the fact that the fascists are fighting each other, that’s always a net positive) is that I can refer to it as gang violence.

    Kirk was killed in a turf war between his gang and a rival gang immediately after trying to downplay mass shootings by asking “with or without gang violence?”

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        His literal last words before being shot were answering the question of if he knew how many shootings there have been in the past 10 years (after blaming them on trans people one question before) with, “With or without gang violence?” Not even a second later he had a fountain of blood spurting from his neck.

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      Yes you can. But nobody else will, especially not those in power, because we live in an extremely racist “culture.”

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        Of course they won’t, but you can rage bait conservatives super hard with it by twisting every racist thing they say about black people being gang-bangers back on them.

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    I didn’t even know about the Groypers till Charlie Kirk was killed by one.

    I only knew Nick Fuentes as “That guy who tried to sue Antifa” and later “The Right Winger who disavowed Trump in 2024”

    Apparently there’s controversy about him not “really” being an Incel because he had a girlfriend in high school, and he believes anything outside of being celibate is gay, because being affectionate with a woman is unmanly… and I’m like…

    “This is too much even for me.”

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      I know him as “that MAGA loser who’s a fiercly proud incel and got caught with tabs of gay porn open on a stream”.

      But to be honest I thought he had completely vanished into insignificance over the last 5 years. Sadly this appears incorrect.

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      I didn’t even know about Charlie Kirk until Charlie Kirk was killed by a groyper. I knew there was some rightwing crank being mocked for having a tiny face on a huge head, but that was it. My main reaction after the shooting was “damn, that really is a tiny face”.

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        They had to go for the neck because the face was too small a target.

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        I only learned about him when I was still on Reddit via people posting quotes on the ‘whitepeopletwitter’ subreddit. Between him, Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh being constantly posted there, I damn near lost my mind at the sheer combined idiocy of them all and had to unsub.

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      Wait’ll you hear about that time Fuentes accidentally streamed himself watching gay porn. Or his date with a catboy!

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    From what I’m gathering, it seems like one group is more “traditionally” American racism… And the other group is more like WW2 Nazi racists?

    Either way, they’re racists and not worth the oxygen they’re consuming.

    Can I just continue to have incredible distain for all racism? Because I’d hate to be branded as a sympathizer to either group. They both sound horrible.

    The only surprising thing to me here is that racists hate eachother enough for this level of violence. I don’t necessarily consider that a bad thing, I just thought they would… I dunno, bond over their mutual hatred of other races, rather than fight eachother over who is more racist.

    … Not that I’m complaining. Having racists kill other racists makes it easier to fight against the groups that remain. Both groups of racists deserve to be put down. Not that I have the ability, capability, opportunity nor motivation to do that work myself… I’m just not going to complain when one group kills the other, and the first group ends up in jail for life because of it. Honestly, that’s an absolute win IMO.

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      Authoritarians, which are not unrelated to racism, if left alone, will start stripping rights from each other. In a spherical cow sense, they can’t really bond with each other because they fundamentally hate other people, like as a concept. This is also sorta why their social media sites never take off.

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        I generally hate people. I don’t want to be authoritative over anyone. I don’t want the responsibility.

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          I wonder if their hate is just a side effect of wanting to be superior over others. And that’s what drives their base actions.

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            More or less, yes. It’s the satisfaction that comes from power.

            The main ingredients of fascism are fear (urgency) and a desire to reclaim a power once held, like in a birthright sense. A result of this is that the power they hold now is a result of the fear they’ve fostered, which means they quite literally cannot survive people becoming unafraid. There must always be a group of people to hate, even amongst each other, or the kingdom they’ve built vanishes.

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      Edgelords that treat their racism and violence as fuel for shitposts

      vs.

      Traditional “Brick and mortar and nooses” racists