The Reform UK leader says he will not be cowed by the incident, which was caught on film.
  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
    63·
    5 months ago

    Politician says ‘I will commit state violence against an entire demographic.’

    People say ‘I hope someone else mildly inconveniences that specific public figure.’

    Which of these sentiments is more bloodthirsty?

    • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
      37·
      5 months ago

      Nice strawman.

      My point is that people seem quite happy to condone violence because they don’t like the victim. Are you able to comment on that?

      • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
        42·
        5 months ago

        ‘You just don’t LIKE it’ is dismissive horseshit and you need to stop.

        We are talking about fascists.

        There are very specific reasons people are okay with these bastards catching projectiles to the face.

        • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
          23·
          5 months ago

          What you’re advocating is violence towards anyone that you don’t like. That isn’t what a just society should condone.

          Fascist or not, they need to be defeated by words and the law not by fists and violence. What do you think is the end logic of what you’re saying? When the actually fascist elements of society start doing the same thing as you’re advocating and start to assault people they disagree with?

          I’m not sure why this is controversial but yet it appears that it is. 🤷‍♀️

          • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
            32·
            5 months ago

            “YOU JUST DON’T LIKE IT!” remains dismissive horseshit, and you need to fucking listen.

            You’re pushing a slippery-slope fallacy… against stopping Nazis. Fuck right off with it.

            These assholes are already doing violence. That’s what makes them Nazis. That’s why we’re talking about more than coming together to sing kum-ba-yah. They don’t “disagree” with people. They’re dehumanizing anyone who was born wrong. Do you understand the difference?

            • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
              2·
              5 months ago

              ?

              Are you sure you understand who Nigel Farage is? Or what has actually happened? You seem to be raging at something that is not what I’m saying at all.

              My point is that you shouldn’t resort to violence when they disagree with people. Defeat them with words not stones or milkshakes.

              Can I ask if you understand this?

              • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                12·
                5 months ago

                Repeatedly explaining how this goes beyond “disagree” and “like” hasn’t helped, so far. Would a third time be different?

                Do you even have a consistent position vis-a-vis milkshakes to the face?

                • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
                  2·
                  5 months ago

                  Do you even have a consistent position vis-a-vis milkshakes to the face?

                  I’ve just said that in the comment you replied to 🤣. Is this really hard for you to grasp? Or are you doing a really good job at trolling me?

                  Repeatedly explaining how this goes beyond “disagree” and “like” hasn’t helped, so far

                  I genuinely have no idea what this means. 🫠

                  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
                    12·
                    5 months ago

                    Sorry, mixed up a conversation with someone more reasonable. You’ve been consistent in saying that hitting Nazis is bad, somehow. Because you think the only reason is ‘you don’t like Nazis.’ Nah mate. It’s because Nazis want to commit dehumanizing violence against everyone like me. And a bunch of people who aren’t like me. And they’re not really particular about people like them.

                    If you insist on seeing that the same way you’d see children bickering over a toy, fuck off. This isn’t about disagreement. This is about basic human dignity and a society safe for people who aren’t fucking Nazis.