If espresso is Italian for fast, why does it take me so long to pull a perfect shot? Checkmate coffee
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I’m talking end-to-end from “Hmm, maybe it’s time for an espresso” to when your beverage is ready to drink. All setup/pull/milk steaming time included.
I have a basic machine with no boiler, so heat up time is negligible. I’d say it’s about 5 minutes for me to unpack my equipment, prep a puck, and pull a shot. Add maybe 2 minutes for each additional shot that’s pulled consecutively. I don’t tend to make milk drinks, so there’s no extra time spent.
This assumes that I’ve already dialed in the grind.
- I recently streamlined by espresso prep by switching to a blind shaker and bean cup with built in scales, saved about a minute of time vs. having to WDT and RDT plus the time moving my shot scale to/from the espresso machine. The other big change was switching to a 58mm to 49mm step down basket as deep basket depth really does seem to make it easier to dial in shots as they have a bigger sweet spot. Couple that with adding in flow control so I have greater control over pre infusion timings and shot ramp down means I have to spend far less time dialing in that I did for a great shot. - Its probably not worth the expense to do this for most people but for me its helped me stay motivated to keep making espresso shots first thing in the morning. - Longest part of using my e61 is the pre heat, that’s about 15 minutes. This I turn on remotely using a smart switch so its not dead time. I am either out with the dog or in the shower while its pre heating. - Weighing and grinding the beans is about a minute, I tend to run some hot water from the group head into the cup to pre heat during this time. Decanting into the portafilter and tamping is less than a minute. The shot pulls in about 40 seconds including pre infusion. Banging out the puck is another 20 seconds or so. I would guess about 3 minutes end to end. - I do clean my espresso machine every day, which means about 5 back flushes and a portafilter less flush at the end. Wiping everything down, emptying the drip tray, refilling the water, thats a good 7 to 10 minutes. Its excessive but I absolutely cannot stand dirty espresso machines. - While I am away from home I use a picopresso with a 1zpresso J Ultra hand grinder, thats considerably more time to make a shot as hand grinding takes over a minute alone. I pre heat by running a full basket of water through the pico for every shot, and clean up has to be after every shot as well. Its probably closer to 6 minutes per shot with the pico. With the upgraded basket and pressure gauge its capable of very good shots considering its size and cost, at least with the J Ultra. 
- This is a great question! I don’t know! - It’s a while. I have a lever espresso machine; it takes a good 15-20 minutes for the boiler to come up to pressure. I can use much of that for prep, though, so once it hits 1.25 bar, I’m ready to pull a shot. The actual shot is about 30 seconds, so to get an espresso, no faster than 15½ minutes. I’m usually making cappuccinos these days, but steaming milk from that giant boiler only takes 30s or so. Pouring has to be less than 15s. Cleanup does take a minute, mainly b/c of the milk pitcher, which I fully wash. Rinsing the portafilter takes a hot second. I usually empty the knock box as needed as part of the prep. - I used to do this daily for several years; get up, fill (if necessary) and turn on boiler, then go do something else to get ready for work. - My time? A minute or a little over to prep the shot, maybe a couple extra seconds because I pour milk while it’s pulling. A few seconds to steam, a few more to pour. A minute or two for clean up. Maybe 10 minutes on those days I’m emptying the knock box, washing out the drip tray, wiping up the counter that’s accumulated coffee dust - but that’s just kitchen maintenance, and I don’t think that counts as “time to make an espresso”. - So: around 20 minutes, all in. If the boiler is heated and we count my time prepping and cleaning, probably 3-4 minutes. - James is a perfectionist; he’s going to take longer to do almost everything. 
- My routine was to open the coffee machine, wait a bit or do something short, then grind, mix the ground coffee a bit, tamp it and brew a shot, simple as that. No more than 5 to 10 minutes. - It’s not long, its about the right time I believe, since its not a commercial machine, that stays on all day long. And if we compare it to other types of coffees, still it must be faster. 
- I’m in a hard spot with a heat exchanger machine. On one hand I love it because the build quality is top notch, parts availability is excellent, and on and on, but on the other hand it takes about 15-20 minutes minimum for the E61 group head to warm up. - Measuring beans, grinding, and puck prep is pretty quick. 2 or 3 minutes. - A smart plug transformed my espresso usage, turn on it on when I get up from my bed, by the time I am downstairs its ready to go. If you have a regular time you get up you could even stick it on a timer. Even being able to turn it on from another room, even when I am on a call saves a few minutes of having to get up and turn it on. - Mine is on a smart plug, too. It helps a ton except for those times where I go “an espresso would be nice right now”. - For that we need the big names to transition to themo coils or similar. I keep telling myself that I would save enough on electric to pay for a Bengle due to it not needing so much warm up time or being left on so long between shots… 
 
 
 
- Espresso does not mean fast but is from “cafe espresso” - pressed out coffee. - It’s not the coffee express. - Btw, in the morning I get up go to the coffee machine, turn it on, take my meds, sit on the sofa while the coffee makee heats up. - I start browsing lemmy, forget the coffee maker, the timer turns it off again, while I answer to some posts. - I get up, turn it back on, sigh and wait until it is heated up (which is quicker the second time) - So my morning cup espresso takes about 30-45 minutes to make. - Oh wait, let me check for my coffee. 
- Heat up is slow for me, around 20 minutes, but I have it connected to a smart plug so I can fire it up remotely before I want it. 
 That’s the downside of dual boilers and E61, I guess…- Making the coffee itself is quite quick: Probably 3-4 minutes. That “slow” because I have the machine far away from the sink so I need to go back and forth a few times extra. 
 If I have a nordic roast, I would probably have to add a minute on average just to clean up the potential spray.
- It takes ~30sec to prepare an xl cup of instant coffee for me. It takes a minute for a cup of “turkish” coffee, or two minutes if I wait for it to settle down before pouring. - It’s not great coffee, but I’d say it’s above average. - The secret: 7.5kW induction plate. 
 
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- 2 and a half minutes for just the shot. Turn on scale, drop beans in into I get the dose I want, chuck beans into grinder, slot dosing cup into holder, hold button into beans are ground, attach dosing cup to portafilter, tap a few times, remove, tamp and level, shot! - Now the rest depends on if I’m going hot or cold. If hot, double prep time from 2.5m to 5m. If cold, add a minute. 
- This was a deciding factor for me choosing to get Thermoblock rather than a boiler. I keep it on the counter ready, so there’s no unpack time. - By the time I’ve ground the coffee the machine is warm and ready to go, and I use a distributor rather than a tamper because it’s less fuss and I don’t notice a difference. - Espresso takes around 30-40 seconds including grinding, steaming milk another 70 seconds but this can be done at the same time. So maybe 90 seconds plus clean up. 
- I’d say about 2-3 minutes all in total. 
- Quicker than a V60. 





